This one time my dad was talking about Karl Marx and said he was “born in Russia”, and I corrected him that he was born in Germany. And then he got argumentative and started spouting out other facts about “Karl Marx”, like that he overthrew the Czar and lead the Red Army…
Suddenly I realized… “Dad, you’re thinking of Vladimir Lenin, not Marx.”
My dad realized I was correct and replied: “Well of course you would know that.”
Went into rant mode at work one time because they were saying the USSR was part of the axis powers.
My head of department bought me wine with a picture of Stalin on the bottle for my birthday after that.
That was pretty cool.
see, when we call americans the most propagandized people on earth, this is what we mean. no one told that person that the US fought the USSR in world war two, but it is so common and socially acceptable to not know about anything that happened before you were born that they got to adulthood without ever being corrected on it.
wait what? can you elaborate? i know the ussr fought the americas with the polar bear expedition in 1918, but ww2?
There wasn’t a WWII fight, it’s that Americans will imagine there was and not get corrected on it because most of our understanding of history is vibes based.
wine with a picture of Stalin on the bottle
Lmao what brand is that
i have vodka with a hammer and sickle on it
Pics plz
I have the same brand. It’s a very pretty bottle (mine’s a little scuffed bc it was in the freezer), and the vodka itself is not bad
They stopped carrying these at my grocery store after Russia invaded Ukraine
Same. Down to my last few drops
THATS IT!
How do I get ahold of Cuban booze? I want to support the revolution and make Fidel proud.
haha it illegal to bring into the us now i think . But that didnt stop my parents from smuggling a few bottles of cuban rum in the us everytime we visited my fathers Caribbean country. i have an uncle who make famous rum cakes, he insist you use cuban rum.
Gotta buy it abroad. I always cop a couple bottles when I visit LatAm, not just for ideological reasons either. Havana Club is a good rum in its own right, selección de maestros is probably one of the best deals out there at like $30 usd a bottle.
It’s definitely not illegal to bring it into the US under your allotted customs quota for personal use
i need that !
Oh wow i thought that was a regular-sized bottle standing on a reflective table
will do tomorrow
There’s a ton of Stalin wines if you search online.
Unfortunately, I couldn’t find the one she got me.
Was it a nice red?
It was a Georgian red, I believe
I mean, I once told my mom that Stalin did nothing wrong, but then walked it back and pointed out that he actually did two things wrong:
- He died
- He stopped at Berlin
I believe the question was “So are you a Republican or a Democrat?”
the ideal hexbearian conversation
peak efficiency
- Trusting Lysenko
I think he hurt gay people and oversaw some antisemitic stuff but libs never talk about that because I guess that would imply that homophobia was bad
Oh the Christians I know who say stuff like
CW
“Homosexuality is repulsive”
do talk about it and say he is bad for it, but wouldn’t mind the state enacting laws and using force against our LGBT* allies.
Yeah recriminalizing gay marriage was pretty bad, like he did a lot of good things and obviously helped save us from fascism. But the homophobic policies sucked and he was definitely a tier below Lenin as a leader.
That was part of a broad reform to criminalize pedophilia, and was really misguided, yeah. I think I read somewhere that statue was only used to imprison an otherwise normal gay person exactly once though, and it was after Stalin had died.
Does anyone know more about this?
Stalin also shouldn’t have given Any Rand an education.
Also he should have realized America was bluffing with how many nukes they had, but I can’t really blame him for that one.
Anything about Nelson Mandela’s past. A lot of people don’t know that he was a member of the communist party and that he wrote a book on how to be a good communist. Or have even bothered to listen to 5 minutes of the Rivonia trial.
Or that he advocated for the MM and its use of violence. It was an essential part of the collective struggle to have a wide variety of pressures to use and apply.
Also the fact that Mandela had a run-in with a future DA voter/UKKKraine flag in bio/Redditor in the mid-1950s who claimed that “he was too much into politics”, while he was an attorney and the anti-apartheid movement was starting to gain momentum (and increasingly violent response)
one time on a long transit ride I was reading a book of speeches by fidel castro and the guy sitting next to me incredulously asked me why I was reading that. I told him ‘because he massively improved the quality of life of average cubans while facing down the might of the US’
i dont hide that im a communist. not at work or school or anywhere. if im trying to be palatable i say socialist. i get threatened with violence but no one has actually tried me yet lol
Same, if anything people just go “oh cool” and move on where I’m at. But, it’s a huge major city and I don’t really go a ton of places regularly, so it’s not like I go out inviting trouble
yeah its rarely a problem, only people who freak out are veterans and some gusanos. also your silence will not protect you
Mostly I get bemusement, curiosity or polite resentment
There have definitely been multiple times when I have had to answer “how the hell do you know that” about extremely commie stuff, like no normal person knows about Allende or the Spanish civil war, but so far I have gotten by telling them I read a lot of stuff on the internet
Would disagree with that. I’ve had conversations with random people who know about Allende, in fact I was once ranting about the CIA in a semi-public place (as you do), and one random guy piped in “yeah they even couped Allende in Argentina” which is definitely some high tier historical pattern recognition as far as real life randoms go. Didn’t talk much with the guy afterwards but I think it’s unlikely he’s a commie given where we were.
Now that it’s officially been 50 years, libs are ready to start adding it to their working knowledge of “bad stuff the US did in the past that we totally don’t do anymore”
I don’t hide that I am a Communist
I once sang the English version of the Soviet National Anthem in the parking lot at work within earshot of nearly everyone on lunch
To be fair, that song is a banger, but they must have thought you were crazy or just fucking with them. “Long live our Soviet motherland…”
I have the opposite problem, I can tell people directly that I am a communist and that I want a stateless classless society and they somehow forget or don’t believe me, because they have to be reminded later on when I say something that a communist would say.
It’s like the masquerade in Buffy/WoD where people convince each other that there isn’t any vampire issue, just a lot of crime waves and people dying of hemophilla.
I really don’t know what it is, I guess maybe they think I’m joking or being hyperbolic? It’s odd though, you have to explain you believe this stuff three or four times before anyone starts to act like it’s sunk in.
These comments made me realize that maybe I should be hiding how much of a commie I am better lmao
I always give it away with just how much I despise landlords
Not really an “own”, but I was the only one of my friends who knew what USSR stood for when we played a trivia game.
too late, they know i am one
I was in lunch break at work and went in full rant mode when a coworker started spewing anticommunist WW2 myths of the asiatic human waves one rifle for two men variety. And another time a guy posted a meme on the offtopic/spam channel about how soviet citizens were starving during the space race.
My white coworkers were being totally not racist when talking about how north Korea is going to “nuke the earth” around me, a Korean person, snd I went off about American imperialism and the propaganda surrounding the dprk
This is kinda tangential to your point but I judge people’s political literacy on the basis of how capable they are of understanding and articulating the geopolitical implications of nuclear weapons and the UN Security Council.
If they think that nukes are a tool for aggression or they make claims like how the UNSC is useless and/or needs to have more permanent seats then they are ultimately idealists and it’s extremely hard to have any discussion with them about politics or history because they’re going to be an utter lib about everything and I find that there’s more room for discussion with someone like a neocon than someone whose view is so clouded by idealism.
TL;DR: if you don’t recognise that political power comes out the barrel of a gun then don’t @ me because we won’t be able to have a discussion.
One of my least favorite type of libs is the “if fight back against your oppressor youre actually worse than they are”
Agreed.
Although you can be a good communist and play to the internal contradictions in their argument here and use it as a lead-in to discuss why police are bad (sure, people might do a little looting but a police officer resorting to violence to stop that makes them even worse than the looters) or anti-imperialism (yeah, Saddam Hussein was a bad guy but when the US invaded Iraq on both occasions they resorted to violence against him and that makes the US far worse than Saddam Hussein ever was.)
Obviously they’re going to disagree with you because they’ll make exceptions for state-sanctioned violence but it’s up to you whether you use the opportunity to just agree with them and railroad your own talking points into an exchange which will make any onlooking radical centrist sit uneasily with their own convictions or you can draw out the excuses and either use it for your own entertainment or to use it as an intervention to identify the limits of their arguments and the inherent hypocrisy.
Or depends on who’s there to witness the exchange, what you want to get out of it, and how much hope you have for the person you’re talking to tbh.
all the fuckin time