WithoutFurtherDelay [they/them]

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  • Wtf are you talking about

    There is no material basis for any of this. Dualism is widely disagreed on by the kind of people who came up with evolution.

    If you mean that human brain development stops and that people are incapable of having new emotions or new beliefs, this is blatantly and empirically untrue.

    Not to mention that you can still have kids as far as like your 40s for both people with wombs and without, so the primary reason given (our species doesn’t need us to reproduce anymore after 19) is blatantly wrong. And why 18-19? Why not even younger than 16? Why not 21 because that’s when most people agree the brain stop’s developing? Aren’t there theories out there that the brain stops developing at like 25?

    This just feels like a bunch of weird justifications for reproductive essentialist shit. Respectively, declaring the entirety of humanity beyond the age of 20 to be philosophical zombies is fucking wild and deeply misanthropic. Most workers are in their 20’s. How can you call yourself a leftist when you believe the entire working population has no consciousness or subjective experience?



  • Respectfully, when looked up, most experts seem to estimate that people start deteriorating later than that. The earliest I could find was 25 years.

    I am not disagreeing with your attempt to categorize everyone above 18-19 as old. That is definitely a subjective category and I can’t argue with that.

    What I do disagree with is the idea that anyone above 19 is deteriorating, and on a much larger scale, that those who are old “might as well die”. What difference is there, really, between someone who’s cells are deteriorating and aren’t, except from a medical sense? If the cell deterioration is an inevitable event in anyone’s life, why does it’s start indicate that we might as well end our life, and not the beginning of our life in general? One could plausibly argue we begin to die the moment we are born.




  • I don’t think that’s how Occam’s Razor works

    It could be argued to be just as simple of an explanation that the entirety of humanity is a single entity with numerous consciousness, and consistent state. We know this could exist because we are a consciousness with state. It could even be argued that the entire world is one such entity.

    But in that case, what difference is there between that entity and just… a physically realist view of reality? Practically none, at least not until we obtain the scientific know-how to hack the Godbrain