Edit: The admins have told me if I don’t say this was an accident then they will remove the post.

It’s is verifiably an accident. It is also extremely convenient for the people she threatened.

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      I’m like 99% sure the US government is capable of discreetly poisoning someone to have an epileptic seizure

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        If you think GRU doesn’t have activated operatives operating on US soil, you’re dream’in.

        Seizures aka “you know we did it but you can’t prove it” is Vladdy’s trademark.

        The US fingerprint is more like the 2 Boing whistleblowers.

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          To be fair - most assassinations by Putin have a much more obvious tie.

          She didn’t fall out of a window, she didn’t get exposed to Novichok, and it doesn’t sound like polonium.

          That being said, still could have been assassination but by other Russian mobsters.

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            Sadly, it could have been the stress of losing her career and possible threats in her future that exacerbated her condition.

            Or really it could have just been shitty luck too.

            Let’s stay focused on the real conspiracies with Trump, musk, vote manipulation (look at mail in ballot rejections), and Putin’s digital army garbage.

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          Hes usually much less subtle than than a seizure, particularly for a victim with a documented history of seizures.

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            An assassination doesn’t have to be by a gun or poisoning, it can be done by stealing and/or replacing her seizure medication.

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              Either one of those should leave evidence in an autopsy and in a bottle at the scene. Putin doesnt normally kill people like that though, at least when its a revenge killing. He wants everyone to know that he did it, that there is nothing anyone can do about it, and that anyone could be next if they cross him.

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            Smart assassin’s get as much info as they can on their victim and use methods to make it look like natural death

            Assassin find out they have seizures, they male it look like death by seizures

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            They use those things when they want the world to know it was them. The number of countries with access to Polonium or Novichok is extremely limited, and both are very easy and obvious to detect in an autopsy.

            When they don’t want the world to know, they make it look like a suicide or accident, e.g. falling out of windows.

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              I don’t know what percentage of a population of oligarchs fall out of windows each year unaided, but when it’s the fifteenth or sixteenth it does start to get somewhat obvious that something untoward is happening.

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        Evidently the family had said she had a history, so they would have had to be playing a long game. I suppose they could have been opportunistic about her condition to make a plausible death, but a plausible death to someone no longer involved in any inconvenient cases doesn’t help any such cases nor does it “send a message”.

        Sometimes things just happen.

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          I’m more than willing to accept the “things just happen” theory considering the timeline we live in. Pieces of shit like Trump and McConnell live forever and get everything they want while good people die in their 40s.

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            Shitbirds only get stressed when they’re worried they’re going to be held accountable. Everything else is an act. Stress is a killer, and the amount they feel is minuscule compared to anyone who gives a fuck.

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            You missed the point that they have no motive to put effort into making it look natural. She was no longer a threat, so an accidental death does nothing for them. They could have killed her to “send a message” but that would be undone by making it look like natural causes.

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                Bad people typically do bad things because they provide some perceived benefit. I have no doubt that Russia would kill her for the benefit of sending a message, but they wouldn’t try so hard to make it look like an accident.

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                  You would if you wanted to leave alive and make it look suspicious enough it could have been anybody. The country she represented has a lot of enemies all over the world.

                  It’s such a trope it’s in like every fake spy movie. If you get caught we don’t know you.

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              Well they do have a motive to make it look natural, they’re still actively fishing for plausible deniability, they’re not going to go throwing people out of windows here. If she had a history of seizures, they without question knew it and could leverage it into unaliving her. The idea that she was resigned and no longer any kind of threat is naive, she could be in possession of a lot of damaging intel, given her activities.

              I’m not saying this is definitively what happened, I’m just saying that dismissing it outright is probably too optimistic. Some consideration should be given to the fact that a) she was young, b) she went after Russian interests and c) she’s dead.

              Even if they were to find something in the autopsy though, I doubt we will ever hear anything other than “natural causes” because America is fully a Russian vassal state.

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                unaliving her.

                You don’t need to use Newspeak to bypass filters here. It’s okay to say killing or murdering or assassinating

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                    Plusgood, comrade, BB would be proud of you keeping your prolefeed clean of crimethink.

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          But, but, if things just happen how could I show I’m smarter than everyone else by figuring out the REAL cause? Nope, must be a conspiracy.

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        The word RUSSIAN was plastered before you like 9 times and you came to the conclusion “USA DID THIS”

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          I mean… Yeah, dude. Have you seriously not noticed that our current administration is in bed with Russia?

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          The players are on the same team regardless of nationality. The war is beyond nations, but nations are a tool to forward the war. Humanity vs the soulless. This war is bigger than borders.

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      According to the article, that’s the families guess and the autopsy/ examination hasn’t even been completed/reported yet. Little odd to be really successful in an “intelligent” field and have epileptic seizures that kill you in your sleep.