Get in here losers

We’re dunking on everything

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    Data-driven as in the data drove, or you drove the data?

    *reads article*

    Well, that answered my question.

    It’s honestly jarring how they don’t define extreme even though they distinguish it from far (by saying extreme is a subcategory of far). Also the lack of criteria for determining how they classified subs into categories such as tankie. And, it should probably go without saying, how they call for intensive moderation on these groups without indicating what harm or risk they represent. It’s almost theatrical.

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    However, when it comes to everyday societal challenges that are usually points of interest for the left wing—like policing, climate change, healthcare, housing, and workers’ rights—tankies seem less engaged.

    Really huge “I clicked on a couple of memes and did no further investigation” energy radiating from this sentence.

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      They can’t identify “tankies” when they’re engaged on those topics because the only method they have of defining a tankie is as someone that supports AES and opposes the state department’s line.

      Everyone who isn’t visibly a tankie is just a regular marxist to them. And everyone who is saying anything the supports AES or opposes hegemony is a tankie and not a regular marxist.

      They don’t realise they’re the same thing behaving differently in two different settings. Marxists aren’t ranting about aes and stalin when talking about unionisation ffs.

  • SkibidiToiletFanAcct [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    • “Race traitor” definition of tankie (AES citizens aren’t described as tankies, Communist leaders today and historically aren’t identified as tankies. only westerners who admire the former categories can be tankies)
    • Study is entirely focused to reddit communities (a platform used exclusively by losers and cranks)
    • “Data Driven understanding” but it’s just the authors own conjured impression that Tankies care more about “state-driven events” and not “policing, climate change, healthcare, housing”. Author should choose a random PSL branch instagram and see what they post about if they believe this.
    • glasses-off “Acceptance of X narratives” - glasses-on making a conclusion based on analysis. Fuck, just because you disagree with someone, doesn’t mean you can write them as if they’re not reasoning, coherent, analytical agents. this baseline applies to chuds too if one was to seriously try and understand them also.
  • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Utkucan Balci (@utkucanbalci) is a Ph.D. Candidate at Binghamton University and a student researcher at iDRAMA (The International Data-driven Research for Advanced Modeling and Analysis) Lab. His current research interests include understanding online communities and how they break up into more divergent subcommunities.

    Michael Sirivianos (@msirivia) Associate Professor of Computer Engineering and Informatics and the Dean of the School of Engineering and Technology at the Cyprus University of Technology. He serves on the Board of the CYENS Centre of Excellence and researches ways to help social media users tell lies apart. His research interests include the trust-aware design of distributed systems, device-centric authentication, federated identity management, discrimination based on personal data, cyber safety, transactional workload scalability, and measurement of blockchain systems

    Jeremy Blackburn (@jhblackb) is an Assistant Professor in the Dept. of Computer Science at Binghamton University. Jeremy is broadly interested in data science, with a focus on large-scale measurements and modelling. His award-winning research into understanding toxic behaviour, hate speech, and fringe and extremist Web communities has been covered in the press by The Washington Post, the New York Times, and Infowars, among others.

    Assuming at least the last two of these people are libertarians who think the left is the real menace to be worried about. Imagine putting in your bio that your work has been covered by fucking Infowars.

  • RedArcher [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    tankies appear to be deeply invested in state-driven political events, often at the expense of grassroots societal issues.

    In an article published on a “think tank” with ties to the State Department and which broadcasts imperialist propaganda against enemy states. soviet-hmm

  • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]@hexbear.net
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    This idea is strengthened by reports of r/GenZedong (a tankie subreddit) showing aggression towards Uyghurs online.

    Oh gee, that sounds awful! I wonder what that was about?

    clicks through

    “As an American, I am very proud of working for the US government in Guantanamo…”

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      Oh my god, how little self-awareness can a person have? Accusing China of having secret concentration camps while proudly declaring employment at a known, verified torture facility.

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        I stg every time I check the receipts on “far-left hate speech” it’s in response to like, “Hi, my name is Nazi McFedstein and I love torturing minorities.” How hard is it to make a wrecker account in a leftist space and then cite your own account saying something fucked up? They just don’t even care because they know their audience won’t follow the links because it fits their confirmation bias.

        • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          lol I remember right after we federated there were tons of people complaining about getting banned from here. They’d complain about dog piling, about how they’re getting harassed, how they were just talking normally and didn’t do anything wrong and were suddenly banned. And you’d look at the modlog and it was always something transphobic or racist they said, then reiterated multiple times

    • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      Rushan Abbas debacle is probably the only time mainstream reddit had a good reaction, IMO certainly because it was so cartoonish and incompetent to a level that(at that time) it was impossible to defend. These days the reaction would be completely different, pretty much blue MAGA would be like “oh yeah so what they’re also actualy literaly a fed agent? Don’t you know that is required training for understanding how to use and spread Western Values?”

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    They often opt to use the nomenclature ‘Communist Party of China (CPC)’—Beijing’s preferred language—over the more colloquial ‘CCP’ […] Overall, there’s a clear inclination in tankies’ dialogues towards viewpoints aligned with the CCP (or CPC in their vocabulary).

    Brain legitimately spilling out of their ears.

    We find the tankies’ usage of ‘Zelensky’ aligns with the r/DemocraticSocialism’s usage of ‘Trump’. This parallel suggests a certain scepticism or opposition towards Ukrainian sovereignty within the tankie community.

    Wow! I had no idea it suggested this. Care to explain why opposition to a Western puppet who shakes the hands of Nazis and wears their merchandise means scepticism/opposition towards Ukrainian sovereignty (in a data-driven way)? Of course not. The “parallel” drawn is so shallow and meaningless. “This subreddit doesn’t like Trump, these people don’t like Zelensky, waow is there a common link here in that both of these groups don’t like separate people?” And then nothing is done with this comparison?? Filling the word count to the brim.

    If I actually wrote something this bad and shallow I would at least forget to put my real name on it.

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      To be honest there is a lot of overlap between Zelensky and Trump, and certainly in their vibes and energy which is something that liberal should spot immediately since their analysis are based just on those (though they also miss those often).

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      They often opt to use the nomenclature ‘Communist Party of China (CPC)’—Beijing’s preferred language literally just the correct acronym—over the more colloquial incorrect ‘CCP’

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      God, is that one of the swords from SAO?! Abjectly shit taste. If you’re gonna pose with a fictional blade, dude coulda picked like. Rebellion, Frostmourne, Ryuko’s Scissor-blade, one of the 40 or 50 designs of Soul Edge and Soul Calibur; and this jagoff picks the single lamest protag’s single lamest blade? HE COULD’VE EVEN PICKED TRUNKS’ NONDESCRIPT-ASSED SWORD, Z-ERA OR SUPER-ERA AND I WOULDN’T BE ROASTING HIM LIKE THIS!

      Such trash taste omfg.

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      lol the only way that they’d get away with this is if liberals try to convince everyone that class discrimination against the rich is bigotry on the level of racism or sexism. I guess they’ve already tried this. Hexbear was created after reddit banned violent rhetoric against slave owners.

      They’d have to set up a framework where wanting a violent revolution against the capitalists is extremist, but calmly rationally talking about the need to evict poor people from their homes isn’t extremist.