• Torenico [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Formed in 1943, it was largely destroyed in the battle of Brody

    Completely unsurprising lmfao. The majority of SS volunteer formations absolutely sucked in combat, exceptions being for example “Nordland” but their actions were completely reckless and suicidal, achieving nothing in return. “Galizien” was among the terrible ones, units like these were good in nothing else than “anti partisan activities”, and that often means pure war crimes – hanging suspected partisans, surrendered partisans or general combat with irregular units, where the Germans conducted their war with no rules whatsoever. But when the time to face the actual Red Army came, these units were almost always utterly swept aside by the Soviets. After a good few days of intense beatings, their remnants would pull back and reorganize far from the front, where they resumed “anti partisan activities”. “Galizien” took part in supressing the Slovak National Uprising, which they did by massacring civilians.

    Also being volunteer formations make every single soldier absolutely guilty of every terrible action their units did, if some soldiers were forced into service there might be an argument, but there isn’t, because each one of these fucks knew what they were doing. I am glad the Red Army brought ultimate justice to these pieces of shit, althrough this one might have slipped away.

    And he slipped away to Canada like a fucking rat. And years later, Canada would give this fuck a standing ovation. Canada. Ask Canadian WW2 vets what they thought of the SS, ask any of their Normandy vets what they would do to any prisoner belonging to the “SS Hitlerjugend” division, this unit has a very particular history with Canadians. The SS commited numerous war crimes against Canadian troops in WW2, and these motherfuckers are now giving them standing ovations? Man fuck the west, fuck every bit of this worthless concept. Fuck all liberals, motherfuckers are an insult even to their own history.

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      that often means pure war crimes

      It 100% meant pure war crimes. It’s not like they had any competence for actual police work or any discipline for actual garrison duty or anything else valuable.

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    There’s actually large Ukrainian exile groups living in Canada, including some linked to OUN-B (Organization Ukrainian Nationalists - Bandera faction)

    https://banderalobby.substack.com/p/the-canadian-bandera-network

    Here’s a Ukrainian-Canadian high school student holding a picture of the genocidal Yaroslav Stetsko

    Here’s a bunch of Ukrainian-Canadian children in front of a giant bust of the genocidal Roman Shukhevych

    Some info about Stetsko/Shukhevych (source: https://archive.md/GZa2H):

    Just goes to show you that the war against fascism is global. There is no “fleeing” to places like Canada to get away from this shit. You must arm yourself and get ready to kill fascists within your life time.

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    I think you guys are being a bit over the top here about his:

    Germans made three political concessions: It was stipulated that the division shall not be used to fight Western Allies, and would be used exclusively to “fight Bolsheviks”. The other concession was in that its oath of allegiance to Hitler was conditional on the fight against Bolshevism.

    Good thing there’s no link between anti communism and fascism

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    Weird that the call it the First Ukrainian Division when it was called "SS Schuetzen Division “Galizien” when this old Nazi bitch joined up. For a real ass patriot like this fella it’s weird he joined this outfit considering “The terms “Ukrainian”, “Ukraine”, could not be used when addressing the division, stressing the Imperial Austro-Hungarian heritage of the term “Galizien”.”

    Also found out that this evil cocksucker might’ve seen fucking Himmler himself when he gave his division a speech.

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      I wouldn’t say there’s a correlation in knowing the actual history. Those guys are just modest about the Nazi part, but well aware of it. They just want to reduce the attack surface.

      So calling them Nazis and treating as such is fair.

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    Zelenskyy and Trudeau also attended a rally in Toronto with the local Ukrainian community late Friday.

    Wonder how many red and black flags they had at that rally.

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      Here’s a video I found. Looks like one (Ukrainian) flag and a few itsy-bitsy souvenir type Ukrainian and Canadian flags like you might find in a margarita or something. But it looks like a small, elitest crowd of mostly people in business suits. So probably more the type who appreciate the fascism from afar and pretend it’s just a necessary evil that has little to do with them because it’s just their money getting soaked in blood, not their own actual hands.

      Then again I don’t see any shots of the people at the back, so who knows.

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    Canada and the USA are full of literal Nazis. But that doesn’t stop them from saying that they all fled to South America, even though most Italian, Japanese and German immigrants came before the First World War.

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    Always important to point out that more Ukrainian fought in the Red Army in WW2 than with the Nazi collaborators. Just to piss off the “national liberation” crowd.

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      You may be right, but Ukraine is still a defending country facing many war crimes by the attacker. Which also hasn’t provoked that attack in any way.

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        Other than bombing civilians for a decade and sending neonazi terrorists to harass and murder them and attempting to join an aggressive military alliance that was created to encircle and destroy their neighbor, sure, they didn’t do anything to provoke it.

        It’s one thing to think Ukraine is the “better” side on balance but to claim that they didn’t do anything to provoke an attack just shows that you don’t know anything about what’s been going on in the region.

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    I had an Arab friend told me he hated Ukraine. Not hated the war or anything like, but just hated Ukraine as a whole. I definitely understood his sentiment but didn’t agree with entirely hating it even after all the obvious Nazism. I took the liberal route of bad apples, that the majority of people do not support fascism. But it’s pretty clear that my friend is correct. I hate modern Ukraine in its entirety - no different than the US or Israel or Nazi Germany or confederate south. This is what Ukraine and its western allies support. Russia shouldn’t give them any concessions

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      it is worth noting that the Ukrainian people elected Zelensky on a platform of peace and bringing azov to heel. Although everyone from the region I’ve personally met has been massively in favour of war with russia

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        I know a few, and while they’re generally no fan of Putin (who you do not in fact have to hand it to), massively in favour is an overstatement.

        Socialists of course are just in despair with Nazis running free and even the anti-Russian left censored and shut down, but even with libs who regard it as an unambiguous war of self-defence it’s not pure jingoism.

        I think people are greatly underestimating the cost of this war, it’s like the home front of WW1 there right now, a generation wiped out, then replaced by the next set of 18 year olds, that also get wiped out. Except Ukraine is careful to keep casualties as invisible as possible. Rationing and complete shutdown of much of the economy. Meanwhile Russia can soak up the deaths with less impact on their society.

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        Zelensky ran on a peace platform so he got more votes in Donetsk, Lugansk and the other regions in the East, as you go further West you get less and less people voting for him until you reach Lviv and overseas voters where they voted for PoroshenKKKo