I guess I find the current obsession with russo-ukrianian conflict strange and maybe even counter productive given the tasks that are at hand right now like rebuilding the lefts organizational capacity creating local connections and services things that are more fun then rust-darkness watching a war you know from across the ocean or like cheer leading for brics or whatever because its not like that effects really anything unless leaders of foreign or a senator goes on hexbear which would be equally funny and maddening. I guess I don’t just want to left to be a sub culture forever.

I work with two organizations in my area since they are the only to exist.

We got so much shit to do we need more people analyzing in real time and producing theory and praxis at the same time. You know walk and chew bubblegum, like I find it hard to find people besides like 3-4 American commentary that produce new Marxist anaylist on the current econmy.

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    First, the vast majority of the American left are social democrats who support US imperialism.

    Second, of the remaining Marxist-Leninists who care, do remember that Marxism-Leninism is founded on the principles of internationalism.

    There is no such thing as “socialism but only at the national level” in the imperial core. The wealth and prosperity of the imperial core are the direct consequences of the exploitative and oppressive structures imposed on the Global South, and the socialist project fundamentally involves the dismantling of such structures from within and without (hence Lenin’s revolutionary defeatism).

    Third, the conditions for socialism in America are deeply tied to the demise of global neoliberal order.

    As long as the US can exert its hegemony on the rest of the world through global financial institutions (and military industrial complexes), there can be no revitalizing of the worker’s movements, trade unions and revolutionary socialist projects. This is because for all these to happen, finance capitalism has to cede ground to industrial capitalism, where capitalists begin to (re-)invest in and rely on the domestic labor to grow sustain the economy, and not from getting “free lunch” across the Global South simply through printing currency out of thin air.

    This is also why the rise of neoliberalism starting in the 1980s directly led to the deterioration of working class movements in America, as jobs were being exported to the Global South to exploit the cheap labor there and to crush the increasing demands of the trade unions at home.

    The current economy in the US is so deeply financialized that the workers serve more the purpose of debt slaves (to service their debts to the banking and landlord class) rather than as wage laborers of productive goods and services of the 19th century and early 20th century industrial capitalism.

    So yes, what happens in the outside world really does matter. And the American left who failed (again and again) to use theory to give them the foresight of what is to happen next, will continue to miss the opportunities for advancing socialism at home. If you really need proof, see what the American left has managed to achieve from the Covid pandemic - a pandemic that disrupted the global economic order and affected nearly everyone who lives under it. They got nothing - literally nothing out of a vast opportunity to push for socialism.

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      First, the vast majority of the American left are social democrats who support US imperialism.

      I don’t think that’s accurate or fair.

      The vast majority of the American left is anti-war and anti-imperialist. However, they’re just as vulnerable to the propaganda saturation of mass media as anyone.

      Second, of the remaining Marxist-Leninists who care, do remember that Marxism-Leninism is founded on the principles of internationalism.

      I think the crux of the issue is that you can’t act intentionally if you don’t have a base of support locally.

      Third, the conditions for socialism in America are deeply tied to the demise of global neoliberal order.

      The demise of Neoliberalism is predicated on a restoration of local self-reliance. The global financialization is predicted on regional drought. Deprive the Global South of industry and the Global North of agriculture. Separate the ownership of property from the ownership of debt and of physical capital. Then collect a vig every time money changes hands.

      The only way to break that chain and liberate people is to re-establish local productive capital.

      Otherwise, all you’re talking about doing is immiserating locals by severing the supply chains between them.

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        The vast majority of the American left is anti-war and anti-imperialist

        the vast majority of the american left can’t handle bananas going up in price by like 25%. imagine selling them on internationalism.

        “no, your standard of living won’t really improve; in fact without all of our neocolonies and client states you’ll probably be worse off than before. dework? no way, actually it would be monstrous to sit back and enjoy your pile of imperialist loot, you will work at least as much as before and export your surplus to help your fellow workers whom you despoiled to become this comfortable in the first place. I’ll be taking all your toys too since our carbon budget was overdrawn like 75 years ago. so, how would you like to risk life and limb for the revolution, comrade?”

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        The vast majority of the American left is anti-war and anti-imperialist. However, they’re just as vulnerable to the propaganda saturation of mass media as anyone.

        You’re contradicting yourself there, if the American left is vulnerable to the propaganda saturation of mass media then they aren’t anti-war or anti-imperialist, as we’ve all seen in the last year and a half, the American “left” is fully comfortable with war and western military expansion as long as it’s coached in acceptable terms by the media