It was almost undoubtedly a US Navy Special Warfare team, aka SEAL team. That is who the US uses for such operations. Was obvious as fk the day the pipeline blew up because the week before US Navy units with special warfare teams attached had been loitering in the general area doing exercises. When anyone pointed it out, they got accused of spreading Russian disinformation and social media sites even took down commerical satellite imagery that showed the movement of US Navy units in the general area. The level of hostility, type of aggressive narrative control, and how key US outlets were already standing ready to suppress certain details made it obvious.
Same type of US behavior is what eventually had some people wondering if that Gaza hospital massacre wasn’t even the Israeli military but carried out by one of the dozens of US military/CIA drones over Gaza. Especially once the details about about the blast pattern came out. No one wants to talk about how the type of deaths combined with the type of damage to vehicles in the area and damage to the pavement looks not like the JDAM muntions Israeli jets were dropping at the time but exactly like the aftermath of a Yemeni wedding, ie damage from the airburst charge of US drone fired AGM-114N Hellfire (metal augmented thermobaric for area effect against soft targets) or Hellfire AGM-114P (blast fragmentation sleeved for anti personnel). Was either a US or Israeli drone, although Apache Longbow helicopter gunships also carry Hellfire missiles. Even more damning was dispite constant sightings in Gaza of MQ-9 Reapers since early October, the US government adamantly denied it had a fleet of Reaper drones operating in Gaza until a week ago after a everyone had finally stopped talking about certain incidents.
You would be surprised what you can do. Most of the time the only things that prevent people from doing actions like this are societal convention or the feeling that you have too much to lose. These fears are compounded by copaganda that convinces you that detectives will ultimately find out that it was you that committed the act. The truth is that anyone who is knowledgeable and possesses certain resources can perform acts like this with only a small group of people and get away with it, maybe not always with a clean record though.
That’s something a person could viably become. I think the point is that there was a lack of institutional power or actual military equipment or anything else beyond the reach of an individual being used here.
“But thousands of pounds of explosives”
Yeah, that’s probably the hardest part, but it’s not like any of it was particularly artisanal.
The amount of explosives and specialist diving equipment required to do this is actually not trivial.
The idea half a dozen dudes did this in a small yacht is laughable.
The nato ships doing “exercises” to “train” for exactly this type of operation that were in the exact area about 2 weeks beforehand is the immensely more plausible explanation, which points to the UK and USA, probably with the cooperation of Denmark since it was just near to their waters and observation area.
Clear bullshit, right?
If Ukraine could pull this off, I could pull this off. I refuse to believe that international infrastructure could be so vulnerable.
It was almost undoubtedly a US Navy Special Warfare team, aka SEAL team. That is who the US uses for such operations. Was obvious as fk the day the pipeline blew up because the week before US Navy units with special warfare teams attached had been loitering in the general area doing exercises. When anyone pointed it out, they got accused of spreading Russian disinformation and social media sites even took down commerical satellite imagery that showed the movement of US Navy units in the general area. The level of hostility, type of aggressive narrative control, and how key US outlets were already standing ready to suppress certain details made it obvious.
Same type of US behavior is what eventually had some people wondering if that Gaza hospital massacre wasn’t even the Israeli military but carried out by one of the dozens of US military/CIA drones over Gaza. Especially once the details about about the blast pattern came out. No one wants to talk about how the type of deaths combined with the type of damage to vehicles in the area and damage to the pavement looks not like the JDAM muntions Israeli jets were dropping at the time but exactly like the aftermath of a Yemeni wedding, ie damage from the airburst charge of US drone fired AGM-114N Hellfire (metal augmented thermobaric for area effect against soft targets) or Hellfire AGM-114P (blast fragmentation sleeved for anti personnel). Was either a US or Israeli drone, although Apache Longbow helicopter gunships also carry Hellfire missiles. Even more damning was dispite constant sightings in Gaza of MQ-9 Reapers since early October, the US government adamantly denied it had a fleet of Reaper drones operating in Gaza until a week ago after a everyone had finally stopped talking about certain incidents.
You would be surprised what you can do. Most of the time the only things that prevent people from doing actions like this are societal convention or the feeling that you have too much to lose. These fears are compounded by copaganda that convinces you that detectives will ultimately find out that it was you that committed the act. The truth is that anyone who is knowledgeable and possesses certain resources can perform acts like this with only a small group of people and get away with it, maybe not always with a clean record though.
Chad forum poster has equal resources to a large Eastern European state.
I doubt I could do it without getting caught, but the fact that I could cripple Europe’s economy with a sailboat and a few explosives is terrifying.
Are you an expert deep sea diver?
That’s something a person could viably become. I think the point is that there was a lack of institutional power or actual military equipment or anything else beyond the reach of an individual being used here.
“But thousands of pounds of explosives”
Yeah, that’s probably the hardest part, but it’s not like any of it was particularly artisanal.
I wouldn’t be caught dead using non-artisanal explosives
i think we’re capable of more than we think
The amount of explosives and specialist diving equipment required to do this is actually not trivial.
The idea half a dozen dudes did this in a small yacht is laughable.
The nato ships doing “exercises” to “train” for exactly this type of operation that were in the exact area about 2 weeks beforehand is the immensely more plausible explanation, which points to the UK and USA, probably with the cooperation of Denmark since it was just near to their waters and observation area.