I’ve been having a number of conversations on Hexchan recently trying to make sense of their politics. The most common instance of their hateful hypocrisy I’ve encountered is this constant assurance that they support trans people while immediately attacking and dog piling and trans people who point out that the situation would be much worse under Trump.
The hexchanners who aren’t actively Russian trolls seem to be little more than useful idiots for conservatives, minimizing the damage they do to vulnerable populations and engaging in high school level pettiness and hate.
This is the most terminal case of America brain I’ve ever seen. Complete myopic focus on American domestic issues as the sole criteria for politics.
I’m unironically and genuinely happy for trans Americans that Biden and the Dems have treated them better than Trump. However, that can’t be viewed in isolation of the fact that Biden and the dems are hellbent on ratcheting political tensions with China far higher than with Trump and his trade war. Add to that the unrelenting Dem-led brinksmanship and escalation over Ukraine (which can be traced back to the Maidan Coup which happened on Obama’s watch).
Nobody is denying that Trump did all sorts of awful shit when he was in power, but Americans need to at least acknowledge that he wasn’t constantly trying to provoke shooting wars with two nuclear great powers at the same time.
Nobody on the left should support Trump but you at least have to recognize that Blue Man is somehow being more of a bloodthirsty warmonger than the evil fascist Red Man you hate so much.
Americans need to at least acknowledge that he wasn’t constantly trying to provoke shooting wars with two nuclear great powers at the same time.
That’s only because Iran and Palestine aren’t nuclear powers. Go look up Trump’s policy towards them, you may learn a thing or two.
Trump was also at least as hawkish on eastward NATO expansion and escalating the conflict with Russia to open war with an Amerikan proxy as any other US president in the last 30 years. He broke disarmament treaties, had the Donbass shelled by Ukrainian nazis, moved troops eastwards from Germany to Poland. Let’s not even get started on the 2% goal for NATO funding that popped up under Trump and has never gone away. Or how he kicked off a trade war with China. Or the travel ban for the Chinese. How gullible can you be?
I’m sick and tired of a way too vocal minority on this site pretending that Trump is “at least better on foreign policy than the Dems” because you like his aesthetics better than Biden’s. First of all, you’re doing a liberalism. Secondly, you’re doing a lesser evilism. FUCK THAT. Thirdly, you’re ignoring that his unilateralism, just like Dubya’s before him, isn’t actual isolationism, let alone anti-imperialism, but simply works as part of a greater good cop bad cop scheme with the dems in how they treat AmeriKKKas allies abroad. The GOP shits on our governments openly to apply pressure, then after the next electoral circus show the Dems swoop in to “mend relations” again, every good little lib here in Europe loves the USA again (and then the Dems are free to blow up one of our pipelines). You cannot vote your way out of the genocidal foreign policy of the USA. It is bipartisan consensus and you’re simply falling for the RepubliKKKan ruse that gives you the illusion of “some amount of choice” on this matter.
Let’s not even get me started on your “i support not genociding trans people BUT” reasoning up there. I have a really hard time not to start screaming at you rn, what the actual fuck am i reading there?
Trump said better things to a camera because he is a serial liar and will say anything that sounds good at the time regardless of previous statements or intent.
I don’t see a lot of people arguing that trump isn’t as bad as Biden. The argument I see (and one I subscribe to myself) is that Biden is better at being bad. They’re both horrible ghouls that would murder a child for a nickel, and they can at best be said to be indifferent about various causes.
The argument is that Trump was incompetent. While he attempted to suppress minorites in the US he saw massive nationwide demonstrations in response. He tried to antagonize Iran, but failed to escalate the situation to anything that didn’t just make him look foolish and wasted precious US resources. Attempts like seizing Iranian tankers were widely condemned, which caused further cracks in US soft power. The world as a whole started to distance itself - The Korea’s started peace negotiations without the us, and South America turned leftward. His needling in Venezuela failed, his coup in Bolivia was overturned and the US stooge that was
got kicked out after a short while, to be replaced with 
.
It’s not that he didn’t attempt these things, it’s that he failed. Meanwhile Biden has seen the overturning of Roe v Wade, increases in transphobic laws with little to no resistance from the general us population, and a war in Europe that put the place at its heel. He escalated tensions with china early on and elsewhere the meddling of the American empire can once again be felt.GOOD post
I’m sick and tired of a way too vocal minority on this site pretending that Trump is “at least better on foreign policy than the Dems”
Yeah, this is one of the worst takes I see frequently on here. I think it’s a mix of terminally-online contrarianism and anti-lib contrarianism. It’s trolling libs with (generously) an intent to have them consider how close both parties are on foreign policy. But they mostly miss that point, because no one gets subtext and we’re staking out a bad position ourselves, so it comes across as uninformed or confusing (do these communists support Trump??).
The good things Trump did (detente with the DPRK, attempted Syria withdrawal) are due to dumb luck and are easily undermined by NatSec ghouls/subsequent administrations. The they are offset, at least, by the bad things he did (a complete 180 on Iran, taking us to the brink of war multiple times), which were also due to dumb luck, but which are much harder to undo.
Don’t worry, I’m not voting for Trump. Anything Trump did that was “better” was only because he was incompetent.
Trump is not good and definitely hawkish is every way, but at this point it is no longer deniable that Biden has crossed the line that perhaps most American presidents wouldn’t dare to cross.
Trump liked to pretend to be a master businessman by persuading the Europeans to spend 4% of their GDP into defense, only to be laughed at. Biden literally started a war and forced Europe into austerity to pay for their defense spending (while killing hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians and Russians at the same time).
Trump tried to persuade Merkel to build LNG terminals to get rid of Europe’s Russian gas dependency. The project eventually went nowhere because nobody took him seriously. Biden literally bombed their gas pipeline and ended European prosperity for the century (yes, the European economy is a dead zone now. It is not going to come back for a long time).
Trump started petty trade wars with China, which were reciprocated proportionally by the Chinese. Biden literally started a tech sanction against China that has no proportional response, and ended the friendly relationship between US and China. There is no reconciliation between the two at this point.
Biden raised the interest rates to 5% in one year and plunged many countries into famine and energy shortage, exacerbating debt crisis across the developing world. Hundreds of millions of people (if not billions) in the Global South are literally suffering to slow the decline of the US Empire.
These are the lines that I doubt even Obama would dare to cross. Whether you like it or not, Biden seems very keen on setting the world on fire and starting fights with the entire world. And he might very well win, that’s the scariest part.
None of this will get better after the next election, regardless of who wins. The ratchet effect works both ways, there is no way to elect yourself out of imperialism.
That’s literally what I said. Biden has crossed the line that nobody else has dared to cross. Everyone is going to try to be as ghoulish as possible now because Biden has proved that it is the way to go.
All these anti trans laws are already happening under
but yeah 
most important harm reduction of our lifetimes. 
let’s keep doing the same
thing over and over 
All these anti trans laws are already happening under
The best summary looks to me like:
- State-level Republicans are aggressively passing anti-trans bills
- State-level Democrats are occasionally passing trans protection bills
- National-level Republicans are banging the table for anti-trans bills
- National-level Democrats (collectively, at least) are unable/unwilling to pass national trans protection legislation
- A rabidly reactionary judiciary (certainly at the federal level) is eroding protections that exist, and salivating at the prospect of more damage; Democrats have no answer to this
- Rank-and-file Republicans range from making attack helicopter jokes to genocidal jokes
- Rank-and-file Democrats range from making attack helicopter jokes to doing meaningful work supporting trans people
You could say much the same for abortion, too.
There are some differences, but not nearly enough, and it’s easy to see how one person can look at this and say Dems are obviously better (focusing on state stuff, rank-and-file attitudes, proposed national legislation) while another can look at this and say whatever Dems are doing (focusing mostly on national politics and losing the judiciary) is not nearly enough.
Whatever support Democrats give to trans people is nothing compared to the money they dump on the transphobic fascist police and military. The Democrats and Republicans represent the same class interests. They might sometimes talk a different way, but the policy outcomes are indistinguishable.
Friday, the Minnesota Senate voted to pass a House-approved bill that will prevent state courts or officials from complying with child removal requests, extraditions, arrests or subpoenas related to gender-affirming health care that a person receives or provides in Minnesota.
Physicians who practice gender-affirming care in Minnesota, and families who’ve sought it out for their transgender children or teenagers, have said the bill will go a long way to ensure that they can continue to access treatment without fear of other states’ laws. Some have said they’ve already seen an uptick in prospective patients from states where their options have been eliminated.
I get your point – it’s not enough – but this isn’t nothing. The article talks about people coming in from other states to take advantage of these laws, so we have evidence it’s not nothing.
We have to understand how disconnected we look when we say “this is actually no different from Florida.” The better approach is “sure, Democrats are better, but they’re awful in 10 other ways and they will never do enough, fast enough.”
i would just order the military extrajudicially execute transphobes with drone strikes, because i was legally authorized to drone strike US citizens that are part of terrorist movements
“BUT BIDEN CAN’T JUST MURDER THE SUPREME COURTERINOO!”
Why? Why not? No one gave a shit when Obama was hunting down and murdering American children, why do you care when it’s a bunch of crusty old fascists?
“BIDEN CAN’T JUST BLACK BAG MANCHIN AND SHOW HIM LIVE FEED OF HIS DAUGHTER’S CAR FROM A PREDATOR DRONE!>!!>!!”
Why not? He can drop hellfire missiles on weddings and ambulances, slaughter hundreds of thousands of civilians in Yemen, and god knows what other atrocities, but one pharma crook is off limits? Why?
We’re going to vote Blue in '24, and Blue isn’t going to do shit. The Democrats have always had options.
It’s a good bit, but presenting “drone strike the Supreme Court” as a legitimate option is silly.
If you want a take along those lines but realistic, ask libs why Biden hasn’t nationalized the Texas National Guard and torn down the horrific shit we’re doing at the border.
It’s a bit hyperbolic, sure, but he could easily pack the court, and if Roberts refused to swear in new justices, he could have him arrested. Obama should have done something similar with Garland: when McConnell refused to have a hearing, he should have given a speech about the Senate failing to complete its duties, ordered Roberts to swear Garland in, and then arrested Roberts if he protested the move (along with any other justices who tried to be stubborn). The president has men with guns, and SCOTUS does not, full stop.
A country that took itself seriously would’ve lined up and shot members of the GOP after Jan 6th just to prove a point
Every Republican nominee is going to be a knock-off Trump, and every Democratic nominee is going to be a knock-off Obama.
That’s just how it’s gonna be from here on out.
Americans think the world resolves around them. NOT EVERYONE IS AN AMERICAN
Throwback to when Hillary supporters accused Bernie voters of switching to Trump in the general, and when they ran the numbers, finding that Bernie primary voters had one of the highest party loyalty rates, and that an alarming number of Hillary primary voters backed McCain in the general in '08.
To be fair '08 was her turn
By not voting for Biden, I voted for Trump (I am not a US citizen).
Not…hexchan! They hurt my feelings, they have to be tRumpist Fascists!
But… Hex-chan…
hex c-c-chan bbaka
Massachusetts Democrats are ‘better’ than Massachusetts Republicans because all the of those who weren’t the type to be rabidly pro-trump boat dealership owners are simply running as Democrats because they’d never get elected otherwise. unless it’s running for Governor. That should really speak volumes about the high background
there’s one inside every defense contractor who “votes democrat”It’s way better to transition in mass because the healthcare is actually free if you’re poor as fuck, hope you have stable housing though because prepare for lots of state violence otherwise. It was democrats doing “clean sweeps” of the intersections where all the unhoused people lived. You know, destroying what little possessions they have and arresting them if they resist.
When I was still promoting the site, they often castigated the open-tent policy of Hexbear as a bad thing.
So I’m guessing that, over time, the ill feelings toward us stewwed up until today, but I could be wrong.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Strange.
These libs are always talking about us claiming to support trans people, or using this as a shield, etc. like we aren’t trans. Their worldview can’t account for the fact that a huge amount of us are trans, and so they refuse to recognize reality. Like I think we should send transphobes to gulags, but in the lib mind this means I support Trump, because the only possible two positions are loving Trump and loving Biden.
I sure as shit don’t feel any more safe than when Trump was in office, almost like there’s a larger societal political thing going on that’s not contingent on one person. Thanks to Biden for…
checks notes
saying he supports us.
Hey, Biden promised access to health care under certain circumstances. What more do you want, you Trump-lover?
no more half measures walter
Hexchan
Drumpf
trump would be a distant memory and his political project would have imploded in 2016 if not for the massive support he receives daily from… online fake leftists.
since the world is ruled entirely by a High Court of Ideas in the Mind Palace of America, when these FAKE leftists shit on biden with their memes, it’s the same as sponsoring state violence against minorities. actually it’s worse.
Biden-Harris 2024:
Everything Else
Is Literally A Pogrom, JACK
