I’ve been having a number of conversations on Hexchan recently trying to make sense of their politics. The most common instance of their hateful hypocrisy I’ve encountered is this constant assurance that they support trans people while immediately attacking and dog piling and trans people who point out that the situation would be much worse under Trump.

The hexchanners who aren’t actively Russian trolls seem to be little more than useful idiots for conservatives, minimizing the damage they do to vulnerable populations and engaging in high school level pettiness and hate.

https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/1879291

  • 420blazeit69 [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    All these anti trans laws are already happening under DaBiden

    The best summary looks to me like:

    • State-level Republicans are aggressively passing anti-trans bills
    • State-level Democrats are occasionally passing trans protection bills
    • National-level Republicans are banging the table for anti-trans bills
    • National-level Democrats (collectively, at least) are unable/unwilling to pass national trans protection legislation
    • A rabidly reactionary judiciary (certainly at the federal level) is eroding protections that exist, and salivating at the prospect of more damage; Democrats have no answer to this
    • Rank-and-file Republicans range from making attack helicopter jokes to genocidal jokes
    • Rank-and-file Democrats range from making attack helicopter jokes to doing meaningful work supporting trans people

    You could say much the same for abortion, too.

    There are some differences, but not nearly enough, and it’s easy to see how one person can look at this and say Dems are obviously better (focusing on state stuff, rank-and-file attitudes, proposed national legislation) while another can look at this and say whatever Dems are doing (focusing mostly on national politics and losing the judiciary) is not nearly enough.

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      i would just order the military extrajudicially execute transphobes with drone strikes, because i was legally authorized to drone strike US citizens that are part of terrorist movements shrug-outta-hecks

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        “BUT BIDEN CAN’T JUST MURDER THE SUPREME COURTERINOO!”

        rage-cry

        Why? Why not? No one gave a shit when Obama was hunting down and murdering American children, why do you care when it’s a bunch of crusty old fascists?

        “BIDEN CAN’T JUST BLACK BAG MANCHIN AND SHOW HIM LIVE FEED OF HIS DAUGHTER’S CAR FROM A PREDATOR DRONE!>!!>!!”

        Why not? He can drop hellfire missiles on weddings and ambulances, slaughter hundreds of thousands of civilians in Yemen, and god knows what other atrocities, but one pharma crook is off limits? Why?

        We’re going to vote Blue in '24, and Blue isn’t going to do shit. The Democrats have always had options.

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          It’s a good bit, but presenting “drone strike the Supreme Court” as a legitimate option is silly.

          If you want a take along those lines but realistic, ask libs why Biden hasn’t nationalized the Texas National Guard and torn down the horrific shit we’re doing at the border.

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            It’s a bit hyperbolic, sure, but he could easily pack the court, and if Roberts refused to swear in new justices, he could have him arrested. Obama should have done something similar with Garland: when McConnell refused to have a hearing, he should have given a speech about the Senate failing to complete its duties, ordered Roberts to swear Garland in, and then arrested Roberts if he protested the move (along with any other justices who tried to be stubborn). The president has men with guns, and SCOTUS does not, full stop.

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          A country that took itself seriously would’ve lined up and shot members of the GOP after Jan 6th just to prove a point

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      Whatever support Democrats give to trans people is nothing compared to the money they dump on the transphobic fascist police and military. The Democrats and Republicans represent the same class interests. They might sometimes talk a different way, but the policy outcomes are indistinguishable.

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        Friday, the Minnesota Senate voted to pass a House-approved bill that will prevent state courts or officials from complying with child removal requests, extraditions, arrests or subpoenas related to gender-affirming health care that a person receives or provides in Minnesota.

        Physicians who practice gender-affirming care in Minnesota, and families who’ve sought it out for their transgender children or teenagers, have said the bill will go a long way to ensure that they can continue to access treatment without fear of other states’ laws. Some have said they’ve already seen an uptick in prospective patients from states where their options have been eliminated.

        I get your point – it’s not enough – but this isn’t nothing. The article talks about people coming in from other states to take advantage of these laws, so we have evidence it’s not nothing.

        We have to understand how disconnected we look when we say “this is actually no different from Florida.” The better approach is “sure, Democrats are better, but they’re awful in 10 other ways and they will never do enough, fast enough.”