I’m just showing these comments I saw earlier, which were interesting. Since it is true, that we’ve been hearing that “Russia is cornered”, since the invasion started. I personally just want this shit to end.

These comments are relating to an article from this week.

I wonder if we will ever know what truly happens on the ground (i.e. when it comes to casualties and many other things)

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      Didn’t Putin say that he would only serve two terms as leader and not change the rules to keep power?

      For some reason, I just don’t trust that guy.

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        This is the height of liberal “analysis”, not a hint of rigor or knowledge of the factional politics or geopolitical pressures that determine what choices are viable for leaders to make

        No, instead it’s just vibes based politics arrived at thru bullshit personal intuition

        “I DoNt tRuST tHaT gUY” give me a fuckin break, say something thats even half way incisive

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            lmao of course, the opinions these maggots share are all stamped out of a DC think tank template

            No what matter what, the US state department is always right

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                  Not the person above but dehumanizing enemies is unnecessary unless your essential message is hate and genocide. Fascists aren’t monsters from another dimension, they are regular-ass people. That’s part of what makes it so fucked up. My leftism is bound up with humanism and I don’t want to lose my humanity in order to save humanity.

                  Edit: misgender corrected

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                    I understand your viewpoint and there’s nothing wrong with that humane approach, but I’d be a hypocrite if I pretended that spoke to me, it honestly doesn’t

                    I’m genuinely not interested in humanizing fascists, the various plans people like that have for people like me prevents me from taking a proposition like that seriously

                    Fascists in power and in the streets might as well be “monsters from another dimension” for the effect they have on my life and the people I care about, I can’t afford to subscribe to any philosophy that could potentially diminish that crucial recognition

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          Someone cited a speech Putin gave.

          I pointed out Putin has a long history of lying [and other shady activities]

          What part confused you?

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            Biden has a long history of lying and other shady activities, yet you accept his narrative uncritically.

            It is true that politicians are not always truthful. Unfortunately you have to educate yourself to determine what the lies are, not just pick a team and a set of lies to believe.

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            I’m saying the national interests of the Russian Federation are not decided on the whims of an evil madman. And when you reduce them to a single person you fall into self blinding behaviors like completely ignoring a speech to the world about a nation’s cause for war when determining that country’s motivation for going to war.

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                You saw something like the wager mutiny happen and seriously think that absolutely no-one backed that because Putin would simply kill them all with his dictator mind powers rather then the country genuinely supporting him?

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          So, you’re saying that if it was you and your family were Burmese/Korean/Vietnamese and people were being raped and killed on a daily basis, you would have asked the Americans NOT to bomb?

          Also, go outside and touch the grass. This kind of third rate cyber stalking is kind of creepy. Memorize the names of people in your neighborhood and don’t obsess over people on the interwebs.

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            Tens of thousands of Korean slave laborers died in those nuclear blasts my man. The USA has never given a fuck about helping anyone who wasn’t bourgeois. They dropped the bombs to warn the Soviets to stay out. Try to read history that wasn’t written by Nazi apologists.

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              So, you personally would have let the Japanese keep on raping and killing your family rather than have the US drop the bomb?

              ‘Yes’ or ‘no.’

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                The Japanese had been begging to surrender for six months—on one condition, that the emperor retain a ceremonial position. The USA granted this condition after the surrender because they didn’t actually care and thought that a fascist leader would be useful in fighting communism, which is also why they placed fascist collaborators in charge of South Korea, thereby leading directly to the Korean War.

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                    The Japanese were only doing all that killing and raping in the first place because Teddy Roosevelt gave them Korea in exchange for the Philippines. “When you dig up the past, all you get is dirty.”

                    To answer your question: no, I would not have nuked Japan. I would have accepted their surrender and then joined the Soviets in driving all the world’s bourgeois scum (like yourself) straight into the sea.

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                    Just because you lack the neurons to acquire a basic understanding of historical events, doesn’t suddenly mean that those events arent complicated. But if you’re so into people being sacrificed for the will of American capitalists, I suggest you go volunteer in Ukraine.

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                  Not even “to save your family.” His question was less than that. Would you kill those people, just to do something? No requirement that the action is effective, only that it demonstrate your protest against your situation.

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                This might be hard for a genocial monster like you to understand but most victims of violence do not wish further violence upon others let alone mass violence on everyone they know and love to “make the pain stop.” Those people would’ve preferred to actually be alive right now you fucking demon.

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                No, I would not kill thousands of innocent uninvolved people for no reason, knowing that it would have zero effect on my situation. Tbh, even if it would save my family, I’d struggle to kill 200,000 innocents (trolley problem).

                Miss me with the “yes or no” smug loaded question.

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            So, you’re saying that if it was you and your family were Burmese/Korean/Vietnamese and people were being raped and killed on a daily basis, you would have asked the Americans NOT to bomb?

            So, you’re saying that if it was you and your family were Serbian/Korean/Vietnamese and people were being raped and killed on a daily basis, you would have asked Bin Laden NOT to do 9/11?

            spoiler

            Also for the record I saw someone else saying they recognised your username from your last warcrimes apologia and so just checked your account on lemmygrad and it was the last comment that had federated with grad

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              So, you couldn’t actually answer ‘yes’ or ‘no.’

              Also, I don’t think using 9/11 as an example of ending a war is really all that smart.

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            It’s good that the USA didn’t employ unit 731 to kill hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese/Burmese/Koreans after WW2. That would have been terrible.

            The nukes were definitely dropped to save those people.