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Last week I was walking down the street with my kids, and some loose dog comes running at my youngest. I’m holding both kids’ hands, so I kicked at the dog to keep it away without actually hitting the dog.
All of a sudden, its absentee owner comes out of the woodwork to threaten “if you kick my dog I’ll kick you!” I just hung on to my kids and kept on walking. I would rather get kicked than let his dog do whatever it was going to do to my kid. I’m not going to stop and get in a fight with this idiot, but it was simply astounding that he expected random people on the street to care more about his dog than he does.
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No you’re right. You don’t know that dog’s temperment. Your kids are more important than a loose dog.
I love dogs but fully support you on this one.
You made the right call. That person was definitely a dangerous idiot.
It is not limited to California, I assure you.
If you think that bad dog owner entitlement is an exclusively Californian issue then I regret to inform you that I have terrible news about the rest of the country.
I’m not a dog person, even the one dog I did have in my household is a shiba inu, which is way more cat-like than anything. I don’t have a problem with dogs in stores as long as they’re well behaved…
BUT
Don’t take your dog to a venue or bar with loud live music. Just because you’re comfortable with loud music doesn’t mean your dog is. I imagine it’s pretty hard on their much more sensitive hearing and our vet confirmed this to me.
Thats my 2¢
Op, did your leg get humped by a dog in a store?
I worked a retail gig in the Bay Area. I was the only one who tried to enforce the no-dog policy. That was 20 years ago. I wouldn’t bother now.
Tbh I love it when customers bring their dogs to my work (as long as the dog is friendly).
Gives me something cute to look at and pet during an otherwise bland day
Work dogs are the best part of my day
Amazon has faux emotional support certs. Harnesses, and badges. Do with that information as you will.
ESAs complicate the whole thing
Not really. I actually like this meme because it specifies the dog is misbehaving. There is no protection for a misbehaving dog.
This is so stupid. Grow up.
If you don’t want your leg humped, then stop dressing so provocatively.
I genuinely adore dogs and love seeing them anywhere I am! But places that sell and prepare food should be off-limits (except for service animals, of course. Their accessibility outweighs these concerns). Some people have super sensitive allergies, just pet dander/hairs floating through the air can be irritating or worse. Some people have a crippling fear of dogs, maybe for a reason? Pets may be fine 99% of the time around family/friends, but they’re still animals. Unlike service animals, they haven’t been tested or screened for emergency situations or stress-tested. They can and do snap, and there’s no way to know if it will happen. When it does, it’s lose/lose/lose: pain & suffering, lawsuits, and almost certainly a loving pet being euthanized.
The stress test is dropping a book on the floor.
Yep. Service animals, drug-snuffing dogs, etc are usually just crowded into a room where a book is dropped. Then they’re good to go!
There is training of course. But that is the stress part.
Fully agree. It’s just not sanitary either, and I know everyone will assume I mean their dog is dirty. I mean that any animal brings unknown elements into a place that makes food. One good shake of a wet dog and you have dirt and debris flying around people eating, and you’re exactly right things like that may affect others way more even if it doesn’t affect you.
I’m okay with dogs in places like breweries, it’s still a risk but as long as there is plenty of space it’s probably fine. Food though adds a whole other element that I don’t think they belong in.
I work in hospitality and while all your points are valid I do wish there was a solution that allowed a little wiggle room accounting for good communication and personal responsibility.
There area where I live has dozens of small bars and pubs and my issue with every single place accommodating every possible allergic reaction and preference is that they can kind of end up samey. I’m not saying it’s realistic but I don’t think it’d be a bad thing for Pub A to say Dogs are fine but no kids please as long as Pub B says Kids are great but no dogs and Pub C can say No kids or dogs but weird sex shit is fine. A man can dream!
I do agree with you. While the health concerns with dogs are valid, I do feel like there should be some designated dog friendly places. It can get really difficult to arrange your schedule around so that the dog doesn’t stay at home for too long. I live with my mom and my boyfriend, and we almost never go places with the 3 of us as a group.
Also, health issues aside, as far as being disruptive, I feel like kids can be just as disruptive. With so many businesses disallowing dogs, it can sometimes feel like you’re almost being punished for having a dog.
Man, you just made me sad by remembering that my local Pub D that didn’t give a shit about kids, dogs, or weird sex shit is closing down. Sucks cuz it’s the only openly LGBTQ+ bar in the area that I’m aware of.
There is the canine good citizen test that many people do with their dogs.
Which means nothing when it comes to places that serve and sell food as the issue is the fecal bacterial cultures that spread when dogs lick their butts and then lick their feet as well as any allergy concerns.
Your dog could be the best behaved dog in the world and they still can’t get around biological realities.
The same bacteria on everyone’s shoes…
No, the soles of my shoes aren’t warm enough to keep them alive.
If the dogs are spreading them with their feet then your shoes are picking them up. They may not survive that long but they are getting transported. Everything dogs walk on, so do we.
Again, not really because the nature if shoes and foot skin provide entirely different surfaces for bacterial adhesion. For example my current shoes soles aren’t porous like my feet are.
Oh good. So you’re willing to eat off the soles of your shoes?
Let me preface this by first saying I agree that dogs should generally not be allowed in food serving establishments because their hair goes everywhere and nobody likes eating dog hair.
With that said though, I have never once seen my dog lick his own butt. What on earth are other people’s dogs doing?! The closest my dog has gotten to licking his butt is licking around his genitalia, which I grant you is unclean as well, but he’s fluffy and keeps the hair between his legs clean and un-matted. But butt licking?!
Now here’s where I get down voted to hell, but I have to play devil’s advocate lol. I would argue that kids are a MUCH larger vector of bacteria and viruses that are of concern to the average adult human than any dog. Dogs are gross, sure, but I’ll take a lick from a strange dog over a strange toddler’s sticky hands on me!
We should keep dogs out of food places, but mostly cause hair and allergies - if we’re going to ban beings due to their gross factor though that list should be much longer (toddlers, homeless, anyone that didn’t wash their hands after using the restroom…)
I guess I’d better not let my dog in the kitchen or dining area at home.
You germaphobes are fun.
It’s not germ-phobic, it’s biology. And you shouldn’t let your dog on counters or tables for sanitary purposes.
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And what about all the rest? How can anyone know that human is a good human and that human is a bad human?
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I love dogs. I love looking at them. I love playing with them. Dogs are the best.
But don’t fucking bring your dog…
People are scared of dogs. People are allergic to dogs.
I know you love your dog, I probably love your dog too but I don’t think I should bring my dog anywhere indoors and/or crowded and neither should you.
Obviously!!! If your dog is a service dog, I am not talking about you and your dog. You just make me sad because I can’t play with your dog :( even tho they are such a good boy/girl…
You can ask people with service dogs if it’s ok to pet and most times they are fine with that, the issue is with people running up and petting the dog without asking. Service dogs are very well behaved and usually love a good head pat
Then it’s likely not a service dog, but an emotional support animal. There is a MASSIVE difference, and people treat them like they are the same.
Eta: so I may not be entirely right. In my experience, I was always told if they’re dressed for service they shouldn’t be touched by anyone else.
No. The difference is in level of training. Some service dogs need to remain undistracted. Other service dogs are alerting on things they notice no matter how distracted they are. This is why you ask.
Should come to Texas where they’ll bring in dogs to the grocery store and they act like it’s everyone’s fault but their own when someone gets upset at dogshit in the aisle.
I am glad the grocery store across the street is adamant about no animals allowed, unless they are genuinely needed for service (like a seeing eye dog, not an emotional support animal). And I am a dog owner. The only store I would ever even considered bringing them into, is the pet store where it’s generally okay to bring them (especially since they do grooming and vaxx services).
Hate going to Walmart and seeing actual shit on the floor because some Karen wanted to bring her fucking designer Chihuahua into the store and doesn’t clean up after it.
Maybe burnings as well
This is an all states thing not just CA. Your dog does not belong at the grocery store
