• Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works
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    21 days ago

    How can someone even know that these are government agents? From the video there seems to be nothing about them that would indicate state authority. Absolutely insane shit.

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      21 days ago

      Same question. If I’d see something like this happening to a person, I have 2 cans of riot-sized pepper spray for temporarily disabling a group of persons from close range.

      Police better wear uniforms.

      Also, a student who lives in a known place, and studies in a known place, does not need to be arrested if her visa has been revoked. She needs a letter to be delivered, asking her to leave. Which she needs to dispute in a court of law, because the reasons for revoking her visa are inadmissible.

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        The game plan these days is to ignore the courts and refuse any part of the appeal process and simply deport them so quickly that it’s fait accompli, and ICE just says “oops sorry they already ‘left the country’”.

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      21 days ago

      If you had even minimally watched the video, you would have seen that they identify themselves as such.

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        I don’t know, someone saying “we’re government agents” doesn’t really cut it, anyone can say that. Also I watched another video that didn’t have the subtitle, thanks for explaining, I didn’t know they verbally claimed to be agents.

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          Not just verbally. They show a badge. If we want to assume that anyone can flash a fake badge without consequences, fine. But in that case, the agency would have denounced it, which hasn’t happened so far. Ockham’s razor.

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            21 days ago

            An agency denouncing something doesn’t help me if I’ve just been kidnapped and possibly killed though. There is so much about this that is totally fucked up. This is basically the absolute worst way to go about this.

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              A government agency denouncing that a television program has lied by claiming that two of its agents did what appears in the video would be the normal course of action if that had actually happened. But no, they didn’t do it.

              By the way, the arrested person’s family has confirmed that she is being held by the government—not kidnapped or murdered.

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                I’m not talking about what we can determine here from the comfort of our devices, I’m talking about what a reasonable person might think in the moment and how that might cause them to respond.

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                  My deepest apologies. I misunderstood you from the beginning then.

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                she is being held by the government not, kidnapped

                Fixed that for you. A warrantless and indeed unwarranted “arrest” like this is extrajudicial by definition no matter who does it. This is Augusto Pinochet level repression of “undesirable” resisters of the ruling regime.

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    Okay, if you think someone is being abducted- and yeah, she was- Don’t just stand their fucking recording on your camera.

    CALL 911!

    Those badges they pulled out? You can just buy them on your own. It’s not illegal. No crime is committed unless you actually impersonate cops.

    if a cop flashes a tin shield, check their ID, not the badge. Cops are legally obligated to identify themselves. The badge is meaningless without the ID. You can get much, much less expensive options that would pass at a casual distance. Fun fact, it’s also perfectly legal to buy the full uniform, as well as the patches. one of my coworker collects agency patches the same way motorcamper types collect state patches.

    The point being, we’re in Nazis America, and brownshirts are gonna be pretending to be cops.

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      I thought all those guns were for situations like the one in the video, but it turns out guns in America are only used for their traditional sport of school shooting. 🤷

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        The people with most of the guns are the ones who want and support this shit. The “left” in this country disarmed itself and shot itself in the foot, pardon the pun.

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        Probably not, but they’re obligated to respond- and more importantly, if you insist enough, file a report.

        It’s going to annoy the shit out of both the cops and the gestapo enough that maybe the cops ask the gestapo to start acting like actual professionals and not thugs with brown-colored shirts

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    As the guy who filmed asked: why are they hiding their faces? Seems so shady.

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    Hey Americans, is this your government going too far? Or are you just being conditioned to express your rage online and then wait for the next one?

    What are you going to do about this?

    Up here in Canada, we will fight tooth and nail against your Fascist government. What can we expect from YOU in this fight?