How can someone even know that these are government agents? From the video there seems to be nothing about them that would indicate state authority. Absolutely insane shit.
Same question. If I’d see something like this happening to a person, I have 2 cans of riot-sized pepper spray for temporarily disabling a group of persons from close range.
Police better wear uniforms.
Also, a student who lives in a known place, and studies in a known place, does not need to be arrested if her visa has been revoked. She needs a letter to be delivered, asking her to leave. Which she needs to dispute in a court of law, because the reasons for revoking her visa are inadmissible.
The game plan these days is to ignore the courts and refuse any part of the appeal process and simply deport them so quickly that it’s fait accompli, and ICE just says “oops sorry they already ‘left the country’”.
I anticipate student groups forming as a protective reaction to secret police bullshit like this. Especially considering how ICE impersonation is becoming popular (side note: what sort of shitbag cunt asshole do you have to be to do that? Like seriously what the actual fuck).
I don’t know, someone saying “we’re government agents” doesn’t really cut it, anyone can say that. Also I watched another video that didn’t have the subtitle, thanks for explaining, I didn’t know they verbally claimed to be agents.
Not just verbally. They show a badge. If we want to assume that anyone can flash a fake badge without consequences, fine. But in that case, the agency would have denounced it, which hasn’t happened so far. Ockham’s razor.
An agency denouncing something doesn’t help me if I’ve just been kidnapped and possibly killed though. There is so much about this that is totally fucked up. This is basically the absolute worst way to go about this.
A government agency denouncing that a television program has lied by claiming that two of its agents did what appears in the video would be the normal course of action if that had actually happened. But no, they didn’t do it.
By the way, the arrested person’s family has confirmed that she is being held by the government—not kidnapped or murdered.
I’m not talking about what we can determine here from the comfort of our devices, I’m talking about what a reasonable person might think in the moment and how that might cause them to respond.
she is being held by the government not, kidnapped
Fixed that for you. A warrantless and indeed unwarranted “arrest” like this is extrajudicial by definition no matter who does it. This is Augusto Pinochet level repression of “undesirable” resisters of the ruling regime.
How can someone even know that these are government agents? From the video there seems to be nothing about them that would indicate state authority. Absolutely insane shit.
Same question. If I’d see something like this happening to a person, I have 2 cans of riot-sized pepper spray for temporarily disabling a group of persons from close range.
Police better wear uniforms.
Also, a student who lives in a known place, and studies in a known place, does not need to be arrested if her visa has been revoked. She needs a letter to be delivered, asking her to leave. Which she needs to dispute in a court of law, because the reasons for revoking her visa are inadmissible.
The game plan these days is to ignore the courts and refuse any part of the appeal process and simply deport them so quickly that it’s fait accompli, and ICE just says “oops sorry they already ‘left the country’”.
I anticipate student groups forming as a protective reaction to secret police bullshit like this. Especially considering how ICE impersonation is becoming popular (side note: what sort of shitbag cunt asshole do you have to be to do that? Like seriously what the actual fuck).
If you had even minimally watched the video, you would have seen that they identify themselves as such.
I don’t know, someone saying “we’re government agents” doesn’t really cut it, anyone can say that. Also I watched another video that didn’t have the subtitle, thanks for explaining, I didn’t know they verbally claimed to be agents.
Not just verbally. They show a badge. If we want to assume that anyone can flash a fake badge without consequences, fine. But in that case, the agency would have denounced it, which hasn’t happened so far. Ockham’s razor.
An agency denouncing something doesn’t help me if I’ve just been kidnapped and possibly killed though. There is so much about this that is totally fucked up. This is basically the absolute worst way to go about this.
A government agency denouncing that a television program has lied by claiming that two of its agents did what appears in the video would be the normal course of action if that had actually happened. But no, they didn’t do it.
By the way, the arrested person’s family has confirmed that she is being held by the government—not kidnapped or murdered.
I’m not talking about what we can determine here from the comfort of our devices, I’m talking about what a reasonable person might think in the moment and how that might cause them to respond.
My deepest apologies. I misunderstood you from the beginning then.
All good, it happens, I probably wasn’t clear. Let’s just hope the whole thing stops, clearly identified officers or not.
Fixed that for you. A warrantless and indeed unwarranted “arrest” like this is extrajudicial by definition no matter who does it. This is Augusto Pinochet level repression of “undesirable” resisters of the ruling regime.