With membership at new lows and no electoral wins to their name, it’s time for the Greens to ditch the malignant narcissist who’s presided over its decline.

“With membership at new lows and no electoral wins to their name, it’s time for the Greens to ditch the malignant narcissist who’s presided over its decline.”

  • DeadWorld@lemm.eeEnglish
    3·
    7 months ago

    Ive been thinking more and more that the only way forward for the green party may just be to pic a few states and focus on local races. Get control over city councils and some mayoralships. Hell, a green caucus in state houses could actually do some good

    • geekwithsoul@lemm.eeOPEnglish
      3·
      7 months ago

      Yeah, to be relevant they need to win some elections in large cities and state legislatures. That would be the base necessary to start winning congressional seats and then work up from there. Because the Jill Stein narcissism tour every four years is clearly doing more harm than good.

      And it would be the best thing in the world for the Dems. They need cogent and real opposition and right now they’re just running against crazies - which is important, but doesn’t do much for establishing an agenda. A functional Green Party would actually help pull the Dems back more to the left.

      • shitescalates@midwest.socialEnglish
        1·
        7 months ago

        The best part of running for a state legislature or congressional position is that they could team with democrats to block the GOP, so unlike the presidential election you aren’t voting against your interest for electing a third party.

    • Optional@lemmy.world
      2·
      7 months ago

      The fact that they’re not doing that but just going straight for an unwinnable Presidential election tells you a lot.

      • wick@lemm.ee
        0·
        7 months ago

        They are doing that. They win about 20% of the local elections they run in for council seats, etc. They hold 140 elected positions according to their website.

    • isaaclw@lemmy.world
      1·
      7 months ago

      Sam Seder has been saying rhis for a decade at this point.

      Its how you build a political movement.

    • AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.worldEnglish
      0·
      7 months ago

      I remember in the late 90s the Green Party in my district was on a roll, culminating in the election of a member to the California State Assembly (one of the highest posts ever held by the Greens in the US). Then came Nader’s presidential bid and its perceived role in the election of Bush, which permanently crippled the legitimacy of the local party. They’re still doing great work with voter guides, legislative analysis, etc.; but they’ll never escape the shadow of Nader and Stein.

      I think the only viable path for a third party now is to start a new one from scratch, and disavow presidential bids from the outset.