Just as a reminder: Bigoted trolling is a one-way ticket to Bansville.
That is all.
Honestly race is a social construct formed initially out of ethnicity in a very similar way to gender being a social construct formed initially out of sex. I don’t think most people would be offended by someone whose cultural behavior matched that of a race not normally associated with their ethnicity, as long as it was genuine and not done simply to appropriate another culture.
Like, if a white kid is raised around a lot of Jamaican immigrants, falls in love with reggae, and becomes a Canadian reggae sensation, we aren’t gonna say that he’s black (because he isn’t), but we also aren’t gonna say that Snow is appropriating Jamaican culture.
I guess it could be an interesting question for a more open future society, whether “trans-racial” identity could eventually be something we could identify and accept.
But of course TERFy bitch J.K. Rowling isn’t asking this question in good faith, she’s trying to be edgy and punch down, like she’s constantly doing these days. So, no J.K. Rowling. Fuck off.
I’m white but grew up in Latin America. Nobody cares if I act Latino in Latin American contexts but if I do with a bunch of white people who don’t know me it can be weird. Also there’s the whole “racially self deprecating latino humor” area that I just kinda try to steer out of generally because nope…
I get that. White people carry so much guilt that we sort of knee-jerk about racial stuff.
I remember in high school I was talking about one of my co-workers, whom I described as “Mexican.” I was told by some of my well-meaning but extremely white classmates, “Don’t call him that, that’s offensive. You should say Hispanic. You don’t know where he’s from.”
I said, “Yes I do. His name is Juan, he’s from Mexico, and he’s Mexican. I know that because I talk to him. He was a police officer there, and decided to get out when he was shot three times. He came to the US and he works in a kitchen here.”
There is an episode of 30 Rock where Tina Fey’s character asks Selma Hayek’s character (the character is Puerto Rican) what she should call her. She says, “A Puerto Rican.”
Tina Fey’s character says, “I know you can say that, but what do I say?”
“A PUERTO RICAN!”
“That does not sound right…”
Sorry, but the entire “cultural appropriation” thing is utter bullshit. It’s made up rules (social construct, anyone?) just to be able to be better than thou.
Honestly race is a social construct formed
No, it’s not. There are such things as different races and ancestries. I don’t gaf what rave you are, but I get pissed once you start behaving better than thou.
This “cultural appropriation” fad is godawful and needs to go. Live and Let live. Saying that somebody can’t do something because they’re from the wrong culture and if not it’s worng think is the exact behavior that you’re supposed to root out. You’re doing the exact thing as the old boomers, just on the other side!
I practice kyokushin karate, as Japanese (and a bit Korean) as it gets. I have a kyokushin kanji tattooed on my arm. I’m also a gasp white male, oh noes! Cultural appropriation! Just that, you know, I had my shodan exam taken by Shigeru Tabata himself, who is -surprise- Japanese, and who WANTS me to use parts of his culture, he is actively promoting it.
Most (just, all) people don’t mind when others use parts of their culture, that is what cultures do, they change, mix, and evolve over time. Mexicans don’t give a crap that Americans wear sombreros on Cinco de mayo, they will sell you those sombreros to being with and love it that you love that part of the culture!
In come the university students who know better than everyone else about their own culture to now tell you that you’re abusing Mexican culture!
Just. Shut. Up. Already.
Live and Let live, stop searching for and making up evil monsters, just let people be Happy.
And yes, you calling jk Rowling a terf bitch shows that you’re not writing this is good faith, you’re just trying to be edgy and punch down.
Imitation is the highest form of flattery
“Cultural appropriation” cunts can fuck off
So you’re cool with black face?
Just. Shut. Up. Already.
I’m not sure why you’re angry at me. I never accused anyone of cultural appropriation, merely described a situation where no rational person would. I also generally think the concept is overly policed on the internet and often bullshit. I have argued for years that culture is meant to be shared. I’m a singer, and I do not hesitate to sing songs from cultures outside my own, and indeed I try to find the right way to express that song as much like the other cultures would as I can.
Like everything else in life, though, this is not black and white. There is such a thing as cultural appropriation, and it is when cultures are belittled and not treated with respect. Participating in a culture is fine. Making your team mascot “Chief Wahoo” is not.
No, it’s not. There are such things as different races and ancestries.
I recommend you look into this more. Here is just one example from a quick Google search. What we mean when we talk about race is not nearly as black-and-white (pun intended) as we think, genetically speaking, and is largely something we decide as a society. Thus, a social construct. Like gender. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t have meaning or value, just that it isn’t something unchanging. Like, for example, how Irish and Italians weren’t considered “White” and now are. Or how complicated things can get within some Hispanic communities with regard to skin color.
And yes, you calling jk Rowling a terf bitch shows that you’re not writing this is good faith, you’re just trying to be edgy and punch down.
I’m not sure it’s possible for me to punch down at a billionaire, least of all by calling out her blatant transphobia. I’m also not sure how taking swings at her means I’m not writing in good faith. I suspect you’re just upset and I’m not entirely sure why. Take a deep breath, my friend.
I’m with you approximately %100.
One thing I’ve done when arguing with a person that insists race is real and meaningful is to ask the other person how many races they think there are.
It gets the gears turning a bit.
European, African, East Asian, Arabic, South Asian, Indigenous Australian, Indigenous New Zealander/Pacific Islanders (same or different?), North American Indigenous, South American Indigenous? are Mexico’s Indigenous people the same race as Amazonians? Peru? Are they the same race as the Inuit of the arctic?
etc etc
Just. Shut. Up. Already.
JK Rowling being deplorable aside, every time I see someone getting “s l a m m e d” in a headline I feel myself age a week.
I hate how this woman still gets attention. Sigh.
Ragebait and the internet, together forever.
Her degeneration into the type of Nazi she’d parody in her books is almost complete.
Wow I thought she was perhaps subtle about her hatred, and that’s why she isn’t universally rejected yet, but apparently that’s not the case:
Calling a man a man is not ‘bullying’ or ‘punching down.’ Crossdressing straight men are currently one of the most pandered-to demographics in existence, and women are under no obligation to applaud the people caricaturing us. — J.K. Rowling (@jk_rowling) May 12, 2024
and that’s why she isn’t universally rejected yet,
Have you seen any fascist being “universally rejected” yet?
I sure haven’t.
Ah! Ok. Now I know what’s going on with her.
She must have once had a long term relationship with a guy with a crossdressing kink but he kept it secret from her. She eventually found out and it ended their relationship and she is bitter about it. So now she’s expanding her bitterness towards any trans woman, which, as far as I can tell – I haven’t looked into it, is an entirely different thing. Metaphorically, her ex used to cheat on her by playing golf, so no she hates all sports that involve hitting balls.
Pun not intended.
Thankfully I’ve always been somewhat off center, so I was always upfront
transphobia
look inside
racism
She bigoted so hard she got the blue sparks
My ghetto-rasied white sister-in-law that loves Motown & has worn cornrows, would quite literally beat her into a pulp for saying something this stupid within her reach.
You can have black ancestry and appear not-black, so this really doesn’t support her argument at all.
She wouldn’t understand a complexity like that.
JK Rowling continues to lose it.
Here’s a Neil Gaiman thing to balance things out
Racist cunt, fuck this trash.
Why doesn’t she just take her Harry potter money and remove herself from society on some private island or something? How damaged do you need to be to want to start fights with an already marginalised section of society? What a rubbish human being!
Honestly this is what I don’t understand about her, especially when her words and attitude go directly against the themes that the books she wrote outlined. For example, Hermione being called slurs like mudblood and the other characters sticking up for her. Hagrid who has to live with himself as part giant and is considered a threat by most of the wizarding world, but those who are close and know him, know that hes a kind hearted person.
In almost every instance where a character has to deal with something about themselves that’s different than the others, the lesson is that everyone should always accept who they are and that they’re valid in being who or what they are.
Instead in real life she just ignores all of this and just acts like a disgusting piece of shit, and you have to wonder how she even wrote these books when she lives her days talking and acting like this.
That’s the thing though - individuals learn to accept individuals as who they are. JKR establishes that there is systemic oppression in the wizarding world (house elf slavery is the big one, but it’s very explicit in the text that there are issues with goblins, centaurs and other magical races) - but does nothing to show that the systems have resolved/improved by the end of the series. Individuals learn lessons, but the system is inflexible.
The way that oppression is solved in the books is always through individual action. Even when the wizarding government is implementing policies harmful to muggle-norms/magical races, it’s portrayed as a bad person being bad because they are bad. Draco/Umbridge/Voldemort are individuals that we identify with the oppression itself, so the problem of dealing with wizard racism becomes the much simpler problem of dealing with The Bad Wizards.
This is something I’ll never understand. If I won the lottery tomorrow I’d disappear in a puff of smoke. You wouldn’t catch me dead making a Tweet about it, much less fighting people over random bullshit
It all comes back to “Drama Kids” from school. And I don’t mean people who love to spread drama, but I mean theater kids. They LOOOOVE the spotlight, hence why they went into theater. They crave the attention, and they’re willing to put themselves out there for it regardless.
Oh yeah, those theater kids and their notorious disdain of LGBT and other marginalized groups.
You’re saying you’ve never met or known a theater person who wasn’t a total piece of shit? Because I’ve known a few myself. They’re the star of the show, regardless of what’s going on around them.
That’s what I’m talking about.
I believe the technical term you’re looking for is narcissist, “theater person” is bit of a broader metric.
For some reason they’re rebooting the HP series into a show. I thought maybe it was a way to update some bits and distance themselves from Rowling, then they hired her as producer. Wtf is even the point?? If anything she’s gonna make it more racist
What’s weird is prior to the meltdown over trans people she was obnoxiously progressive. Constantly retconning characters via tweets to make them more inclusive, when it has absolutely nothing to do with the story being told.
I have no problem at all with Dumpledore being gay and Hermione being black. I think including marginalized people in story telling is fantastic.
But that’s absolutely not how these characters were written. She just kinda said that’s the way it was and left it at that. Because the characters weren’t originally written with that in mind it added no context, and brought nothing to light about these characters that night have been missed. That’s not inclusivity. It’s pandering. And she just would not stop doing it.
What’s weird is prior to the meltdown over trans people she was obnoxiously progressive
Sooo… just your bog-standard liberal “progressive” that jumped onto the fascism train as soon as the status quo was threatened in a way she doesn’t approve of?
Funny, that.
Sometimes people are assigned progressive by social expectations and start playing that role without really thinking about it. She tried to write an apolitical generic kids book, and everybody’s white, fat people are evil, and bankers are big nosed goblins. Then other people read it and started pointing things out, but she couldn’t detect any of this herself so when she tried to be inclusive she just added Ching Chong the asian and a minstrel slave race. Need to make someone black, I said Hermione has ugly frizzy hair so I guess it’s her. Need a gay, make it the asexual grandpa so it’s not gross. Eventually something comes along that cracks their assumption that they must be progressive and they come out as right wing on Twitter.
