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      At a certain point they’re gonna overplay their hand and people (not libs obviously but people capable of complex thought) are going to completely write off anybody putting out endless articles that boil down to “don’t support genocide? Here’s why you’re worse than people who do!”

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    okay, so as someone with a liberal MA in 4d critical voting theory, what this essentially means is that anyone who wants four more years of biden should stay home in november so that biden will have more support among non voters. that way, the power of not voting shifts so that not voting for trump becomes a vote for biden, and votes that are not cast in the physical space are not bound be the limitations of the ballot-box, meaning that you can vote for biden several times by not voting for trump

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    Don’t think you need a PhD in statistics to understand that you can’t reverse causality like this

    Being a liberal causes you to vote =/= voting causes you to be a liberal

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        If the average person read “the more basketballs you shoot, the more you are an NBA player” I think many would read it as a causal relationship that operates at the individual level.

        I mean strictly speaking it’s not incorrect, but I just know this author wants to scare people into voting as if it affects their political views.

        When Marx said, ”the human essence is no abstraction inherent in each single individual. In its reality it is the ensemble of social relations,” I think it’s coming from a similar standpoint of incommensurability between aggregates and individuals. There may be an “average voter” as a statistical object, but it does not exist as a real individual.

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          i appreciate the comment. i don’t know how i interpreted your comment, or how i ended up addressing it.

          i think i agree with what you’re saying, i’m surprised that the author would be attached to the headline, which is weirdly normatively charged, for what i assume is now a not unsurprising observation that recently lower turnout elections have swung the Dems way.

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    So Trump is bringing out the disaffected people who usually abstain? That in itself should be a huge red flag about us politics as a whole, and really speaks to the whole fascism vs socialism issues were increasingly coming towards, as more and more people come to realize that the status quo is untenable (and are desperately latching onto whatever offramp there is, unfortunately we’re not being given another choice besides proto-fascism)

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    this is why i vote 5 times every election and those votes are third party so both sides can claim those votes were actually for the other guy so its really like 15 votes

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    I had always planned on voting, just not for Biden. I’ll be voting PSL if they’re on my ballot, and writing in some joke about my balls or asshole if they aren’t.

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    Well then… if not voting is a vote for Trump and voting for Trump is a vote for Trump… then he’s 100% going to win and there’s no reason to vote for Biden. 'Cause “not voting” is what the vast majority of the USA voting population does every year.

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    so the more you vote the more you back biden, so by voting for trump you are actually voting for biden more than you are voting for trump imaginator

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      Well according to libs not voting for Biden is a vote for Trump.

      Which means not voting for Trump is also a vote for Biden.

      Which means if you don’t vote for either of them you actually voted twice.

      Which means you’re half as likely to support Trump as the liberals who just voted ONCE by simply voting for Biden.

      I’m starting to think their logic may be flawed here.