It feels like it’s dying. Just anecdotally it seems like there have been less threads lately, less quality threads, and less discussion overall. More anecdotally I feel like the last couple of federation / defederation slap fights ended with many users leaving as well. I can think of a few who left because we were federating, some who left because we then subsequently defederated from lots of the fediverse, and then even a few who said they would leave if we didn’t defederate and then left anyway when we did.
I feel like mostly overall I have seen very few new posters, and have seen less and less of some certain power posters.
Is this just a illusion or is this really what’s happening. What is to be done?
We broke over 960 daily active users yesterday and have been regularly getting new applicants referencing posts on reddit, bluesky, mastodon, and other lemmy instances as where they found out.
We get these posts with some frequency and from the admins perspective we do not highly prioritize growth and anyone who wants to spread the word about hexbear is welcome to.
Yes there could be a problem with user churn but we do not think that is a significant one at the moment. Regarding hexbear posts and comments there will always be a disparity between those who love badposting/chapotraphouse/thedunktank and those who love theory/news mega/effort the most
getting new applicants
we have an application now?! my open borders hexbear
it is a very easy application. As a result of the spam bots targeting lemmy instances we can either require emails and have no application or not require emails and have an application.
How many of those new users are cannibals though? Release the stats, mod.
Mods are self-admittedly flooding us with posting scabs who will both eat our lunch and then subsequently also eat us.
maybe once they eat us, we can finally eat our damn lunch, inside their stomachs. fricking greedy cannibals man
Did my part.
Waiting for some extremely confused person to walk in here
Geoguessr players about to pinpoint your exact location on a map
By the shadow I can tell this is on the summit of Liberal Mountain
Them bitches can come at me.
there will always be a disparity between those who love badposting/chapotraphouse/thedunktank and those who love theory/news mega/effort the most
this is the great dialectic!
they’re both tentpoles of Hexbear Revolutionary Consciousness
theory/news mega/effort
are those even real?
Who has gotten the most upbears in badposting?
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that’s almost back to launch levels
Horsepoo theory
526 of those users are feds and 278 are libs.
There used to be a way to see how many people were online, right? Did that go away completely, or is it just hiding behind CSS?
Right, but it used to say how many were online now?
Line of best fit with a logarithmic function on those data points suggests that without taking peaks into account, there are around 350 users online in any given hour. Maybe in the 250-500 range.
Thanks, but I was more wondering about like what our most active hours were and how that compared to other instances. Like I know we’re all pulling nightshifts in moscow, but is that balanced out by our counterparts at Langley?
iirc it wasn’t exactly accurate anyhow. At one point I believe it counted every tab as a user
I am the Hexbear tabs.
Yeah, something like that, but that’s something that should’ve been easy to fix. Just wondering if the number was still available. Woulda been nice to know.
I believe the Lemmy backend is now accessible both through websockets and through HTTP endpoints. It doesn’t make the count impossible, but definitely complicates things. I don’t know why the decision was made to remove it, but I trust the devs didn’t remove it arbitrarily.
That was changed in a recent lemmy update
Gotcha.👍
are you thinking of a phpBB website
Makes sense. If you’ve got the data to support that we aren’t shrinking or growing at an unhealthy rate (because I think both are possible) then it’s probably not much to worry about.
We had a user that had a bot calculate and there are some sites that track lemmiverse activity but from my personal anecdote of logging on multiple times a day is that we are currently at our second highest Daily Active User count with .ee federation bringing it to around 970~
The single largest user acquisition moment was from someone posting about us on bluesky and with the impending reddit ipo lemmy will get another user pop
So basically my impression is totally backwards, and actually we’re growing, not shrinking. As is customary everyone please just ignore me I clearly have no idea what’s going on
You are right though, that a lot of old power posters have either left or aren’t posting as much.
That happens though, and it’s good that we’re seeing growth as the “vanguard” is stepping back. That means the general culture of the site has been defined and growth is slow enough that it won’t suddenly shift anytime soon.
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It’s very rare to find someone who can post that hard for an extended period of time without becoming an asshole about it. User churn is good in a lot of ways. People should be taking breaks as they deem it healthy.
Can’t become an asshole if you were already an asshole
it’s called an anal fistual
Though keep in mind just because a user doesn’t post here, doesn’t mean the person themselves aren’t still here. After 7k comments I’m concerned about how much info I’ve posted, so I plan on not using this account anymore and using a new one. I know I’m not the only one, either.
god I have 20k comments between a couple of accounts. you’re reminding me I need to
Yeah, this is approximately my 420th account
I’ve been here since the site started and I start a new account like once a month. Don’t know why it’s not a more common practice (or maybe it is?)
Smh I’m not an asshole I just type lol in response to every comment
Lots of exceptions to the rule getting upset about this one lol
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Unironically it’s just the post sorting algorithm. It was way better before federation, although I can’t put my finger on why exactly. (Not to criticize our admins and tech people who work on that stuff behind the scenes, I’ve also seen a ton of improvements and stuff too).
One of the original hexbear devs made a custom algo sort that was really good but the versions change to allow federation broke that, we’ve been trying to get it back but no luck at the moment.
it’s ‘been dying’ since 2020, there’s a post like this every 6 months
Hexbear and China gonna collapse any day now 😔
Having been here since basically the beginning, I feel like it’s only gotten better. Some good changes I’ve noticed:
- Far more explicitly pro trans than it was initially
- Generally seems like more of an effort is made to be welcoming
- More activity and fun community events like movie nights
- Struggle sessions are more or less a joke and angry struggle sessions seem much more rare
Some things I miss:
- Posters like tervell, brookebaybee, UlyssesT, and others who aren’t as active or no longer around at all. If you’re out there reading this, come back and say hi!
- President Parrot has also disappeared from the public eye following the last scandal that was in the news. I think it was the one where President Parrot was naked or something.
- Also, this was kind of always an issue, but there are lots of smaller commas that could use more love.
Far more explicitly pro trans than it was initially
The transgender communist cabal will seize power all across the globe, it is only a matter of time
@Tervell@hexbear.net is still the greatest of all time at posting
Tervell posts all the time, mostly to videos and guns. He posted to videos 2 hours ago in fact. Perhaps he blocked you or vice versa (which, sorry to hear if that happened…reminder to everyone that if you blocked other Hexbears you should go through periodically and unblock them to see if you still want them blocked). But yeah, there are plenty of posters who have dropped off over the years never to return. It’s sad.
You’re right! And I can see their posts which is great news. Not sure way, but I just haven’t been seeing them as frequently. Maybe it’s the comms I browse or time of day I pop in.
I have been posting somewhat less, since I’ve just already posted a lot of the stuff I had - it’s only really /c/guns that I regularly post to now, and /c/videos & /c/games to a lesser extent. My supply of sword pics was a lot smaller than the one of gun pics, so /c/history’s pretty rare, although maybe enough time has passed to repost some stuff, I dunno.
I think with the Lemmy updates there were also some sorting algorithm changes - I think Active got changed, then Scaled was introduced which was supposedly closer to the original Active, but then I think maybe Active got changed again, and I’m not sure how things sit right now, I’m still on Scaled myself. And finally, it could just be timezone differences.
You reminded me that there’s been a lot less waifu art lately, which I appreciate.
i was goin back through my early posting history here and i’ve noticed this site’s become way less aggressive. i think we’ve come a long way since the transition from chapo.chat
second missing those users. some really great posting.
I’m not on hexbear because of the federation issues, I still enjoy the instance from my
.ml
account. Not a poster though90/9/1 rule
90% of users are lurkers and they need to be bullied into posting
I would like to remind every hexbear that failure to post whatever inane bullshit floats to the top of your mind after reading anything at all on this website is counter-revolutionary. Good communists post. The only bad posting is no posting. And bad posting gets you dent to the posting
where they make you post anyway.
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blorp
lurkers are lame, everyone should post
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9% engage with the content by commenting and sharing and posting once or twice, while the vast majority of the content is created by the 1% of posters who post daily or semi-daily.
Discovering I’m a member of the 1%
Is a poster not entitled to the sweat of her brow?!
I assumed this was a joke post
Ive been here the whole while, and currently it feels quite healthy actually, to me at least, compared to where it’s been at difficult times
Love you all
Unfortunately, UlyssesT left to go touch grass and isn’t likely to return for some time, if at all.
But I think the site’s fine. We got that one new power user, demoncracy (whose apparently gone now lmao), hanging around now. Probably some others I don’t recognize as easily because their avatar doesn’t stand out so much.
He should keep touching grass, it killed Kissinger
Demoncracy is leaving Lemmy, see https://lemmygrad.ml/post/3968698
Oh wait, that is the person I was thinking of.
I skipped that thread yesterday but damn what a shitshow.
It used to be around 500 daily users , now it’s at 900. So, it’s not decreasing, but maybe not increasing by as much I guess.
I will never log off.
I can’t be always online stealing memes ok?
no sleep, only memes!
And yet I can always be online posting shitty bits. Curious
We appreciate your hard work my man! I see you putting in work erry day
I remember seeing the first Hexbear is dying post in like August 2020
“Hexbear is dying” is the new “chapo used to be better”
real ones are using hexbear2_2_2
Your experience on the site is largely determined by what sorting algo you use by default, IMO. (or what mega you browse if you primarily hang out in the megas)
If you use Hot sort you will see mostly new posts, but comments sections will be pretty empty. If you use Active, you’ll see the posts with the most active comments section, but they’ll all be like 12h to 2 days old. Etc.
So using Hot (or especially New), the comments can feel really empty: but you have the opportunity to be the one who starts the interesting discussions in the comments, or gets first dibs at the cheap jokes. Using Active you’ll see the fullest comments sections and most struggle sessions
You can try both of them out using the selector on the front page, but if you want to change your default that’s on your user settings page (in case it wasn’t obvious)
I switched to Hot after we migrated and federated, but it took me a while to realize how drastically different the site experience was on Hot vs Active. I still default to Hot but sometimes I switch to Active to see slapfights or good posts that I missed
EDIT: Also to provide some data, our monthly active user count is actually up ~200 since 6 months ago. That’s something like 10% growth? These things are hard to really judge precisely but I don’t think there’s any sign we’re dying
I actually like scaled sort as it boosts smaller but active communities. Hot, New, and scaled are all relatively similar.