Ah yes, famously conservative media like One Piece, Ghost in the Shell, Gundam, Princess Mononoke, JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure, and Cowboy Bebop

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    Conservatives stand for nothing, except vague nostalgia about the “good times” so it makes sense their “conservative core” anime would just be a bunch of stuff they watched as a kid and as a teen. No analysis, just “this was really cool when I was a kid, and I didn’t have to pay rent or anything back then, so I associate these two unrelated concepts because my brain is smoother than a billiard ball.”

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      conservative values like “reject the emperor’s orders in order to save nature” and “care for the sick, have equality for women AND respect and find balance with nature”

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    Black Lagoon

    Japanese pencil pusher gets hijacked by pirates

    realizes his company doesn’t give a shit about his safety

    defects to the pirates’ side

    commits international crimes with a female Chinese mobster (and her big boobed catholic nun friend), a black soldier, and a Jewish hacker

    conservative media

    You can’t make Black Lagoon today because FVW (family value warriors) snowflakes would call it woke, pandering, and forced diversity.

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    Hey, all of my favorite ani- oh

    Not gonna blame them for princess mononononoke though; she’s simply a forestcore wolfgrind sigma tradwife who’s been greenpilled and is actively rejecting the woke metalist agenda and their soy anti-tree narrative.

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    I like Jojo, but in the rare instances where it really offers political messaging it’s basically libertarian bullshit (see the end of Stone Ocean episode 27, where Araki takes a strong stand against motorcycle helmet laws on existential grounds for some reason)

    The main thing I like about Jojo is its derangement, so this doesn’t bother me too much

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    It’s really not about media literacy. The right doesn’t care about truth or consistency, their interpretation of things is purely Id based, if they like a thing they just force a interpretation that aligns with their value, they likely know it’s bullshit but whatever, makes their pee pee feel good. If a Nazi liked fucking Battleship Potemkin they’d mental gymnastics an interpretation that aligned with their beliefs. It doesn’t matter how blatantly left you make the message in a piece of media, CHUDs will find a justification for liking it.

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    Ok I think I mostly get it, this person used exactly 5 criteria to make his picks:

    #1 “I judge a book by its cover”, this includes almost certainly not watching even a single episode.

    Spy x Family, GnP, JoJo, Sailor Moon, Black lagoon, Tanya, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Gundam

    #2 “I watched exactly 1 episode to be sure and yep this ain’t woke”

    Jormungand, Cowboy Bebop, Kill la Kill.

    #3 “My 4chan friends like this thefore its probably ok I guess”

    Bochi , Lucky Star, Azumanga, Konosuba, Princess Mononoke, One Piece, CSM, Ghost in the Shell

    Also he probably heard those weebs refer to “Fate”, FATE, FAAATTTEEEE so much that so he googled exactly the first result which is the original game art, good job lazy ass mfer.

    #4 “This sounds anti-woke enough right? Sounds good to me” literaly same as cover but mfer read the title literally

    Hellsing, Spy x Family, Angel Cop, Gunsmith Cat

    #5 “My cousin was watching this 15 years ago, guess it ain’t woke then it ain’t woke now”

    Bleach, DBZ, Monster, K-on, Eva,

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      Monster is comically anticommunist, at least. Like, I think there might be one episode where they “both sides” things a little, and obviously it’s also anti-Nazi, but the main plot hinges on completely absurd anticommunist brainworms about Soviets torturing children to, uh, make another Hitler or something? It’s really hard to keep track of what anything means because the mangaka has the worst Mystery Box proclivity that I’ve seen in literally any medium.

      Meanwhile I think Chainsaw man is at least mildly progressive, way to OOP’s left, considering the allegory about nukes that implicates the Japanese and US governments in absolutely heinous crimes. idk, I guess you’re right that Denji being porn-brained means channers would like it, but is that really why it’s on here?

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        I don’t think the Soviets were involved, at least not up to the episodes I’ve seen. Rather, it’s Neo Nazis being prevalent in east Germany and other Warsaw pact countries doing experiments on children. It would’ve been a great plot point had the author been a little more woke and made the story part of a larger CIA/GLADIO type operation. Fuck man. It could’ve been so great. Historically, there have been psychological and authority figures in the serial killer and systemic child abuse world that overlap with intelligence operations (not talking about satanic panic either). Not to mention the Brabant massacres were literally the CIA and NATO cultivating serial killers.

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          I’d highly suggest reading Banana Fish (manga); without spoiling too much, the main antagonist is the head of the Corsican mafia, and the author doesn’t shy away from explicitly namedropping the CIA and its anticommunist operations in South America and Vietnam (among others), or the systemic abuse of children from marginalized backgrounds by the US government. The anime is good too, but it’s set in the 2010s rather than the 1980s so some of the changes don’t make sense (e.g. replacing the Vietnam War with the Iraq War).

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      Angel Cop is explicitly anti communist. Like the protagonist is basically a vigilante serial killer who goes around killing communists lol. Lots of gore. Probably the only thing that makes sense on this list in addition to Halo.

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      Is not having an internal dialog a disability?

      Also never understood the concept of someone not having an internal dialog, what’s the difference between an “internal dialog” and, like, regular imagination? Pretty sure all humans have an imagination. I always suspected people who say they don’t have an internal dialog just don’t understand what an internal dialog is and assumed it has to be straight up like Disco Elysium skills talking to you.

      Idk though I’m not a neurologist.

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          I think aphantasia is just the inability to form pictures in your head, isn’t it? That doesn’t necessarily mean they can’t imagine things, just that they don’t attach a visual component to the process

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          I thought that was just the inability to form images in your mind, I’ve never meet someone with aphantasia but I thought they could still imagine things, they just had a hard/impossible time formulating 3D realistic images. That’s not really related to whether you have a “dialog” or not.

          Also aphantasia isn’t considered a disability in the medical sense.

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        Its a form of neurodivergence for sure, but I doubt its limiting in any way minus maybe socially if people find out and due to mere gross ignorance.

        Internal dialogue is more your subvoice/self talk ex ‘I am going to the store’ that plays in your mind, those without it don’t simply have it but still go through all the motions, planning, etc. They don’t have an auditory-speech overlay to thought, its instant, sometimes they have a visual/tactile suboverlay.

        So, they can still imagine and hold conversations to a depth of those with it, its just another form of being, they can still absolutely reflect on life while people with ceaseless internal dialogue can still be thoughtless jerks.

        People with aphantasia can def be creative, they pull more from tactile then which is a more ‘feeling’ than ‘mind’s eye’ sort creating, ‘my hands just moved in a way and then creative magic happened’ vs ‘I sort of pictured what I wanted then tried to make it’. Aphantasia can be very heart-wrenching since society is so visually-focused.

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          I guess this stuff is just hard for me to mentally visualize, like generally when I think about something I’m not literally having a dialog play out in my head, unless I"m actively trying to create a dialog like if I’m writing a fictional story, but if I think “I should go to the store” that’s more just a collection of thoughts and motivations being cobbled together into a simple actionable item that can be translated into spoken or written English.

          IDK, I guess the issue with all of this is we really can’t see into other’s minds so we kind of have to rely on their descriptions of how they think, but it’s hard to describe your own mind I guess.

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            Right, then we tend to assume our mind is the standard when really we’re all different.

            Trick is to call up memories of other senses to make it a little easier to process. There are seriously people out there that have full on rpg like dialog voiced by themselves while they think(the 2 things are linked), ,nonstop like a bad comedy, and when you tell them ‘nah, not for me’ they get weirded out mildly at best, have some fun names to call you for not sharing that experience, others get a constant stream of images/feelings, many have nothing, its only this ‘sensed’ thought on demand, all are legit.

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      nah i’ll give them halo, it glamorizes the child-kidnapping lady-goebbels that created the spartans (Dr. Halsey is perhaps internally conflicted but constantly proven to have made the ‘necessary tough choices’ to save the universe/humanity/etc.), the covenant are basically a racist republican’s idea of what Islam is, a fraudulent religious totalitarianism (the prophets know for a fact that the humans are the real Chosen Special Race, but lie to their people and say the Covenant is the Real Chosen Special Race) complete with suicide bombing slaves (grunts), and the Real Ancient Threat, the Flood, is an obvious allegory for Communism that the Christians (humans) and Muslims (aliens) have to come together to destroy - after, of course, the Muslims/Covenant overthrow their corrupt rulers (with the help of the human personification of the American Navy, Master Chief) to join the Christians/Humans.

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      They literally and unironically quote liberty prime from fallout and think he’s a cool tough American badass.

      Here’s a couple lines that didn’t trip their trigger that maybe what theybwere consuming wasn’t earnest.

      “Democracy is non negotiable”

      “American casualties: unacceptable. Overkill protocols authorized.”

      “Death is a preferable alternative to communism.”