as a non-native speaker it’s still crazy to me that the word ‘consumption’ is used about media

Hexbear is my mindless slop

feel like people value their criticism of media as though it is any less slop than the media itself. unless the criticism actually matters in some way - criticizing sexist tropes, the CIA being the good guys, working conditions of animation studios, or just the overt politics being espoused by the media - i don’t really care whether someone else thinks the cinematography is fancy enough. the acting is unnatural? i’m autistic as shit, i act unnatural. a lot of this is really is just malding that other people do not value the same things in media, which gets sillier when its asceibed to some immaterial lack of fulfillment as though the only way to be fulfilled is to be obnoxious about movies.

i have never watched an MCU movie. i have watched every niel breen film. the latter is a favorite because i enjoy it explicitly as a social activity.

but yeah i also am generally critical of dunk culture as it seems to just further alienate people and i don’t see how this mindset doesn’t just further alienate someone from these lower-than-pigs subanimals that watch popular movies. and so i too get mired in the pointless dunks on people as we all get emotionally exhausted.

I despise what Marvel has done to the movie industry but I have literally no reason to despise or hate those who continue to watch the movies. As long as it sucks it sucks. This one person not watching the movie doesn’t magically make it not have any control over the industry, and literally bullying people for watching it is not some sort of cool gamer move. It’s just weird and antisocial. Bullying works with veganism, yeah, but that’s because most people don’t have entire social networks that are partially dependent on eating meat. These people are literally addicted to Marvel. Removing it from their reality would be akin to just making them unable to participate in… maybe at least 60% of conversations their friends have. It’s more akin to trying to bully someone into not eating around other people- You’re not going to be able to do it no matter how hard you try, not without removing their incentivize to in the first place (socialization).

What bothers me is that shitting on people for liking X thing has become it’s own kind of “treat”, a form of slop that people absolutely shit themselves in anger over when someone points out how it’s flawed. Like, Jesus Christ, I am not saying that you can’t criticize the movies I’ve already criticized like 4 times in this thread alone, just maybe don’t be an asshole to random people you’ve never met who are doing nothing wrong? Criticizing works of art, hell, even insinuating that the mere consumption of it is problematic, does not require you to actually consider those who consume it as bad people and in most cases they just blatantly aren’t.

Watching these sorts of weird, reactionary-tasting anger over X person who consumes Y thing is like watching people complain about water flooding all their crops, so they shout at the waterfall until it stops moving. It lacks any sort of analysis, it’s like a ironically and hilariously mindless substitute for actual concern over what these movies do to people

I understand we need to vent our emotions somehow, but actual systemic critique, analysis, and finding solutions to how Marvel has entrenched itself into society is right there and if you aren’t going to do it just because it’s too hard, and would prefer to do something more mindless, then… Yeah! Fair! But maybe don’t criticize other people for not always consuming leftist theory instead of brainless slop, then.

Edit: I’m just tired.

When did we all start “consuming” everything? I’ve never consumed a media in my life. I’ve watched a lot of movies and tv shows. I’ve read a number of books, magazines, and newspaper articles. I’ve played lots of games. But why do people insist on using capitalist slang to describe their own habits. It’s bad enough they call everyone “CONSOOMERS” for everything in state media, but why bring it on yourself too?

I never understood it. I consume crap sometimes the same way I eat McDonald’s sometimes, I suppose because I’m poor and sometimes I’m also weak and depressed and lazy, but it always makes me feel like shit afterwards. What’s going on with these people that pursue and process McDonald’s the same way they would a five star meal, metaphorically speaking? I dunno.
Probably McDonald’s is not the right metaphor. I’ve said it many times but I really think entertainment is the 21st century opium of the masses. It’s a way to tune out. But holy shit you would have to be a cynical, hopeless wretch to uncritically embrace it.

That’s fine, though? A big part of relaxing is just turning your brain off and embracing your inner potatoe. There are certainly many people that deserve your criticism, but this one seems like a self-concious statement that the person just wants dumb slop, like 90s action movies or whatever

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I don’t care that he has a lack of artistic interest in film. I’m glad the movies make him happy

that said I do hope that the recent marvel failures results in an end to the trend of everything being a cinematic universe

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They just want candy not a meal. They want fucking marvelslop not Cinema.

shrug I don’t know why you need to get on people’s cases about this. They’re equating this to cheap candy bars, ffs. They know. We know they know.

Inb4 let people enjoy things

But you still should. There’s no point in ragging on folks for liking a thing you don’t like, even if we can say that it’s cheap and lazy and bad at an objective level.

Given how the franchise has slumped since Infiniti War, it feels like you’re kicking a dead horse. The production of these films is getting slowed down as their ratings tank out. “The Marvels” brought in a pathetic $6.6M its opening day. The Barbie Movie and Oppenheimer both proved people are interested in different slop. Finding the last guy on Reddit who is still into this shit and yelling at them… like, why, bro?

Honestly agree with the second comment because modern trailers basically spoil movies, and a ton of reviewers just write complete trash. Like sure I’ll look at rotten tomatoes scores just to check that what I’m going to watch isn’t complete nonsense, but I’m not going to read a review written by someone that might not even understand the movie themselves. See the original reviews for Starship Troopers, the reviewers completely missed the entire point of the film. Media literacy has never been great, and it’s honestly been at an all time low in the past few years.

The difference is that I probably won’t find superhero slop or Prestige TV slop entertaining/fun though. Honestly tuned out of the superhero movies after Age of Ultron. They’re not really movies anymore, just really long series episodes with a large gap in between.

When is the “let people enjoy things” struggle session?

But tbf, I understand where the criticism comes from if you have a deep belief that media partially shapes reality

I wonder if when Marvel introduces Captain Israel (I’ve no idea what her name is; she’s IDF too) if she’ll have as part of her backstory that she participated in the genocide of Palestinians happening right now; maybe she can attack a random brown family in America when she sees that one of them wears a Palestinian scarf (as some zionist person attacked a (Sikh) dad (who was wearing a Palestinian scarf) holding his kid, throwing hot coffee at him and allegedly saying she hoped his kid would burn in an oven).

Please be fucking normalllll and yes let people enjoy things

Don’t hate on fans and Marvel’s popularity because the movies lack cinematic sophistry or is artistically stagnant

Hate because it’s propaganda and infests people with