You may have heard of third places before, but in case it’s new to you, they’re essentially community spaces where you can chill & socialize…Like here, I suppose! But typically they refer to in-person community spaces.

Does your area of the world still have a number of these, or are they in the decline? Do you know if your in-person communities are trying to establish or renovate theirs to help people connect or reconnect with one another?

  • norske@lemmynsfw.com
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    2 years ago

    I’m in a small rural town in the south Puget Sound area of the Pacific Northwest in the good old USofA. I’ve only been here two years, having previously lived in OR, WI, and AZ. Back in OR there was a neat old western saloon building called “The Clubhouse” that housed a whole bunch of neat stuff. There was an arcade and a snack bar. A restaurant and barber shop on the top floor. Lots of big rooms that could be booked for events and stuff. It was free to hang out and socialize in and then food and drink etc cost money.

    Since then, I have not experienced anything similarly and it makes me sad. Everything outside my house is monetized except the public library and who knows how long that will last.

    I wish we could have a “community rec center” or something like that. It’s far too easy to remain disconnected from the communities in which we live and that’s super sad.

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    This has been a real problem around me, and it was getting worse before the pandemic. I have barely tried since, but as we are getting back to in-person events it will keep taunting me. I’m in the Boston MA USA area.

    We have some spaces, like library rooms. But they often have constraints. One was that you had to be a tax-ID non-profit. It turns out we are for one of the groups I organize, but not all of them. So many of the more informal types are out of luck.

    If you did qualify for the library room and get approved, you can’t have food. Or you can–but you have to use the library catering. This was like $200 for a dozen brownies.

    And also: if you do make the cut, you cannot use it for regular meetings. So people can’t get used to going to the library on the third Thursday…or whatever.

    There was a time when you could get a restaurant room, if you would spend some amount of money. But my groups have been full of people who don’t spend like that, or don’t drink like a sportsball crowd. So they start saying that you can’t take up that space anymore. And I get that–running a restaurant is hard and margins are thin. I don’t blame them. But we also don’t want to force people to buy an $8 beer.

    There are some “community rooms” around. It’s very hard to figure out who has them, how to use them, and schedule them. And someone has to show up with the key. This failed for our neighborhood group several times.

    I don’t know how to solve this in a place where real estate is high and there just aren’t rooms sitting around. I also think liability and cleaning weigh on this.

    I don’t know how to solve this.

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      I don’t know how to solve this in a place where real estate is high and there just aren’t rooms sitting around. I also think liability and cleaning weigh on this.

      I don’t know how to solve this.

      It may not be much, but if it makes you feel any better, this isn’t the sort of thing for any one person to really address. It’s definitely more of a community effort to recognize the necessity for more lax, non-productive spaces (which may have productive spaces to visit on the peripheries).

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      2 years ago

      Maybe you already know, but a first place is usually your home and a second place is your work or school.

      So either your unemployed or out of school, or you have a second place without realizing.

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    I’ve known about the concept for a while but never really appreciated it after I stopped going to the gym. There’s like 7 houses around me being renovated, so to have some sanity I found a Starbucks nearby where I could spend a few hours a day. That’s my 3rd space for now.

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      2 years ago

      If you find yourself getting burnt out going there, you might check out your local library. Some nicer ones even have a café themselves!

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    2 years ago

    Great video from Not Just Bikes on third places.

    Main issue is how we are/have been building towns/communities. More often than not, you’ll see new builds on land solely for single family homes or only residential apartments instead of mixed used (commercial first floor, residential/office second+ floors) buildings. These all feed onto higher speed roads/highways where you have to drive to shop/eat/work/etc. Many older/pre-suburb towns may still have good third places, we just don’t build towns like that anymore.

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    It’s not a thing around here (eastern Kentucky) that I’m aware of. Everybody is too spread out.

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    I’m really interested in this. I think every area has some unique challenges (recent problematic earthquake here) and opportunities (tight nit community). What I see in many places boils down to money. What few places we do have in my little town are in poor shape, one more shake or blow away from shuttering. In many places in my country, funding can be had for building things. Grants. But nothing for operating. Budgets are too thin, communities are made up of people that cannot help with funding.

    I would rather avoid taking a dump on capitalism, but third places are services, fundamentally, and as long as any of them are viewed as revenue generators, they cannot win. We all lose. Just as a local school does not have to raise its own money directly, we probably need external finding for communal places. Non-profit coffee shops? Maybe. My thoughts. I ate at a diner, nightly, for years. Got job referrals from other regulars. Met a combat barber 😳

    We have to fight the rot from within, I think.

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      As I understand it, any suggestion that anything should be operated without the express goal of generating a profit is “taking a dump on capitalism,” as you put it. Or at least, it is, if the reactionaries who call you a communist when you suggest such a thing are anything to go by.

      I’m also going to second another user in this thread and bring up the influence of cars as discussed by Not Just Bikes as a factor that’s at least equally significant.

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    I think the city life with everyone being in a rush and overwhelmed with work has decreased the amount of third places a lot.

    I still see some local caffés where people chill and the barista also sits with them at times and joins in the conversation, or people talking while they’re getting a haircut etc. but it’s mostly a bit older people, young people seem to keep to themselves more.

    Then again, I’m quite introverted so it’s hard for me to engage in conversation to the point where I might not even notice that some place is a “third place”

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      I think the city life with everyone being in a rush and overwhelmed with work has decreased the amount of third places a lot.

      Also monetization. What third places do exist are, like you pointed out, places of business. They cost money. This is detrimental to our communities

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    2 years ago

    My home state is pretty well known for having some thriving third places historically, but they are shrinking now. The city I currently live in lacks such places.