• GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    If people just got over themselves and called it a comic book, that specific communication could at least be avoided, since there is absolutely no difference except that “graphic novels” want to be respected by a mainstream audience.

    Not even a knock on the author, the label is probably from the publisher.

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      1 year ago

      IMO “graphic novel” is a little more specific. Long-running superhero or manga series aren’t graphic novels, nor are newspaper comics.

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        Thing is, there are plenty of books that are called “comics” for various reasons, such as Maus, compilations of weekly publications of a non-strip serial (e.g. tankobons)*, and some other cases.

        *compare to how many classic novels, e.g. work by Charles Dickens, were initially published chapter-by-chapter but are now read as compilations. Many manga as well as western comics also get published this way (e.g. I have an old Daredevil book that was originally published on a monthly basis but reads just fine consecutively as a unified book)

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    But wouldn’t a graphic novel about a girl in a concentration camp be quite – you know – graphic?

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        Ok, thanks. So they are about the persecution of the Jews but end when she is deported? I always thought she continued it in the concentration camp.

        • It’s a diary she began shortly before her family went into hiding in a secret annex in an office building/warehouse owned by her father’s business partner. It ends somewhat abruptly. We only know what happened because of the testimony of her father, who was sent to a different camp and survived to the end of the war, and that of the people hiding her, who kept the diary safe.

          It’s pretty much what you’d expect. Anne is a clever teenager with a dramatic streak. She writes about being afraid, but also about being bored, or annoyed with her family or the other people hiding with them. She writes about what she wants to do when the war is over, what kind of person she wants to be when she grows up, and what she misses from before. The tragedy of the diary lies outside its pages.

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      She couldn’t exactly keep up her diary in the camp, or if she had another one it didn’t survive. I think the diary we do have was recovered from the house they had been hiding in.

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    even if it had graphic depictions of Holocaust, whats the problem? children are supposed to learn history, even gruesome parts of it.

    high school history textbooks in the U.S. show photos of Holocaust, right?

    • it’s not because of the holocaust. the holocaust isn’t directly mentioned in Anne’s diary. she had no way of knowing what was happening or where jews were being taken. the actual reason idiots are mad about it is because it’s the diary of a teenage girl, and she talks unguardedly about her romantic and sexual feelings. the taboo subject here for these people is that anyone might make it to 16 without hating their body.

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        ya ik what i was saying was that photos are very good at conveying the true scale of cruelty.

        for example U.S. censored photos after nuclear bombing of Japan

        American public highly approved of the use of the bomb and believed that the U.S. decision to drop the bombs in Japan was justified. The paper also observes that after censorship was officially lifted, publications such as Life uncovered shocking, gruesome accounts of the aftermath of the bombings. Therefore, the photographs and captions support the idea that the U.S. government wanted to avoid domestic and international criticism for the brutality of the bomb that devastated Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

        Photographs in the August issue provided a distanced aerial shot of the cities, but neglected to show the moaning victims, the crowded hospitals, or any other indication of the devastation left behind by two of the most destructive explosions in human history. It took Life seven years to tell what Burchett had told the world; articles in the September 1952 issue called the victims of the atomic bombs the “Walking Dead”, and shocked its readers with graphic pictures of radiation-burns on young children

        http://www.dukeeastasianexus.com/a-veiled-truth-the-us-censorship-of-the-atomic-bomb.html

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      Textbooks in the US tend to be pretty bad. But I assume most books they still have photos but the right-wing is creating tsunamis of shit. It’s hard to keep track of everything they are up to.

      I think their attacks on Holocaust-related material is them testing the fences like the velociraptors in Jurassic Park. If they can succeed in banning Holocaust-related material - they can have the confidence to try to ban anything.

      Holocaust novel “Maus” banned in Tennessee school district | PBS NewsHour

      Jan 27, 2022 9:33 PM EDT

      ATHENS, Tenn. — A Tennessee school district has voted to ban a Pulitzer Prize-winning graphic novel about the Holocaust due to “inappropriate language” and an illustration of a nude woman, according to minutes from a board meeting.

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        The stuff that Americans take offense to is hilarious. This reminds me of the scene in Hannibal with 2 corpses that had the skin on their back peeled off and cut into wings. NBC thought it was inappropriate because the buttcracks of the bodies were visible, so they obscured them with blood.