joe biden or donald trump? who would you pick? if you had to measure both men on a scale and determine which one is the lesser evil, who is it?

the answer is, dont engage with this kind of question. both men are unambiguously bad and we shouldnt argue further as to which one you should not vote for, neither one is deserving of a vote, not voting is always an option.

hypothetical questions like this that force you to choose between two bad options, they are actually bad discussions, like you should make a conscious effort to avoid these would you rather questions and try not to ask them.

comrades, especially our fediverse comrades, consider such kind of thoughts haram, do not be making false equivalencies. we do not believe in morality, we do not believe in good and evil, we are communists and our beliefs are derived from theory, nearly everything has a precedence.

  • Cal_216@lemm.ee
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    Equating Biden and Trump is a false equivalency. Both are bad. But one is magnitudes worse. It’s ok to compare and judge them. Biden is flawed. Trump is uniquely evil.

    A dumpster fire is bad. An out of control wildfire is worse. There’s no reason not to recognize that one thing is worse than another, even if both are bad.

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      History didn’t start with the 2016 election. Biden has had a much worse impact on the country over his entire career than Trump’s four years of fumbling. Biden is more evil just based on the ‘94 crime bill alone - millions of Americans’ lives were ruined and are still ruined today by that bill and Biden isn’t even apologetic about it.

      • DoiDoi [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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        Joe was also one of the biggest pushers of the Iraq war. He got to choose every single witness in the senate hearing on Iraq and he chose 18 different pro-war witnesses! He was also talking about war in Iraq long before it became a mainstream thing.

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      Agreed. While not voting is technically a choice, it’s not a choice you should take if you want change. Let’s put out the wildfire first, then we’ll work on putting out the dumpster fire.

      Unless people have a realistic third choice we can make. Ignoring the problem until it goes away isn’t going to work though.

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        Congratulations the person you voted for to put out the wildfires just started stabbing holes in the fire hoses as soon as he was elected.

        That fire can be roe, climate change, the rise of fascism, take your pick.

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            It doesn’t prevent the scenario, just like voting didn’t prevent the scenario. You need to stop thinking about politics as something confined to voting every two years, because that’s how you get an ancient decrepit beast like Biden being the “lesser” evil. Politics is about actions and organizing.

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        Let’s put out the wildfire first, then we’ll work on putting out the dumpster fire.

        Is there some particular action the Biden admin is doing that you would categorize as “putting out the wildfire” ? From here it seems like the vast majority of Trump policies - policies decried and lambasted by Democrats - have somehow been upheld and continued. Almost like voting for Biden is diametrically opposed to putting out any wildfires.

        edit: note that they chose to attack the idea of not voting rather than coming up with literally any positive action the Biden admin has done - because there aren’t any

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      Biden has already likely caused more harm by:

      • Ratcheting up tensions with Russia, likely precopitating the SMO.

      • Restoring some competence to the imperial machine. More military actions flying under tge radar, financial weapons being used more effectively to impoverish.

      • Creating horrible economic conditions for various African countries through blanket sanctions and intimidation.

      • Cutting COVID benefits and declaring the pandemic emergency over.

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        Biden caused more problems than Trump for the same reason matches cause more forest fires than flamethrowers: bigger dangers are taken more seriously

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    Would I rather defend myself with a knife or a gun?

    Neither. Because both are weapons and I dont engage in false equivalencies.