No.
Imo the more you think about it the more you realize that “god” is just a very human way to cope with feeling powerless and life having no ultimate direction or purpose. People imagine someone who has a plan and will bring about justice, and they also use this shared fantasy to make others do what they want.
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful. — Seneca
Nobody asked about religion.
From the things I’ve seen in my lifetime I can only assume there’s no God, and if there is a God then he’s not worth worshipping for letting the amount of suffering exist as there is in the world today.
Seconded.
No, not at all. I went to a christian high school and that experience removed pretty much any doubts I might have had.
I’m a happy atheist, don’t really care about all this religious stuff. I don’t mind that others believe, just as long as they don’t impose their views on others.Do I believe in god? No.
Do I deny the existence of god? No.
I don’t have evidence either way
Since science is deductive it’s probably impossible to prove the negative there, but I think there’s enough evidence beyond reasonable doubt that you can confidently deny it (unless your god is non-falsifiable, in which case it’s not worth discussion).
nah, religion seems like a scam that usually results in unhinged beliefs and abuse.
Not a fan generally speaking.
if you dig into any religions beliefs, it goes into some wild fairy tail stuff that just…doesnt happen.
Not to mention that folks tend to base their morals on religion, and religions have very flawed morals.
the difference between god and myself is that if I could, I would prevent a child from getting bone cancer.
Religion did have good morals in theory. Not in practice.
Also, unrelated to your points, religion didn’t evolve. It stayed about the same for thousands of years, despite new science.
i didnt say religion only had bad morals. broken clocks and such.
but christianity in specific has a lot of flawed morals that christians handwave. like Mary being 12 when she gave birth to Jesus, or pretty much everything old testament.
claims of a perfect and just omnipotent god while stuff like that flies is sloppy.
Religion did have good morals in theory
Which one is that?
That jesus dude had some pretty liberal thoughts. Buddhism was a nice reaction to the caste system. The method of delivery may not be inherently moral, but it is possible to manipulate a population in a way overall beneficial to society.
That jesus dude had some pretty liberal thoughts
He personally, maybe. I didn’t know the guy. The religion that grew around him, though … not so much.
I’m not sure if it’s because of his father or he just had terrible editors for his posthumous book release. But some of the stuff in there is quite abhorrent.
If you need to rely on an external force and fear of hell to have morals, you’re not a good person.
No.
No
No
You can’t disprove God because you can keep changing the definition. If I define God as the culmination of everything in the universe, you can’t really disprove that.
If you disagree with me, then I can just keep changing the definition of God!
Surely the reason you can’t disprove God is because you can’t leave the universe. Since it isn’t possible for us to know what is outside of our universe we can’t prove or disprove a god’s existence.
Which one?
The spaghetti monster
Ramen to that!
Do you believe in Santa?
I remember I actually stopped believing in God at the same time I realised Santa wasn’t real.
Fuck no.
I used to when I was younger. One day I was thinking about all the bad things in the world and wondered why God lets it happen.
At that point I realized it was a choice between believing in a god that allows terrible atrocities to happen, yet still demands to be worshipped, or to believe in no god at all.
If I am to believe the Bible, then that means God created everything, meaning they also created everything bad and wrong with the world, including creating Satan/“the devil”, the common scapegoat that is used. That sounds like a cruel twisted toybox to me.
I am not aware of other religions gods, so for this I’m talking about the one I used to believe in specifically.
I went through an existential crisis in my 20s because I was ‘told’ I needed to be religious but never was. I read a lot of theological and philosophical texts and came to a conclusion similar to yours, if there’s a ‘God’, then they’re cruel. I oddly get Pantheism more than Monotheism, because at least it justifies that there’s ‘good’ and ‘bad’ deities but a lot of them are based on interpretations of phenomena that can now be explained by science.
I took much more to philosophy. I know what I believe is right and wrong morally, and science explains (almost) everything. If there’s a ‘God’-like figure, they can suck my nut sack because I believe they are at best indifferent, at worst, evil.
And of all the bad things, I find it quite disconcerting how many bad things organized religious have and continue to do. As someone raised Catholic, the organization leading it has, to say the least, a troubled history. This happens unopposed by an all-knowing, all-powerful being under the excuse of free will?
Yes
