I’m just showing these comments I saw earlier, which were interesting. Since it is true, that we’ve been hearing that “Russia is cornered”, since the invasion started. I personally just want this shit to end.

These comments are relating to an article from this week.

I wonder if we will ever know what truly happens on the ground (i.e. when it comes to casualties and many other things)

  • MoreAmphibians [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    2 years ago

    For example, NATO tactics assume no, or very few mines. Ukraine is the most heavily mined place on Earth now. NATO tactics assume air superiority. Ukraine has very few fighter jets, and won’t receive new ones from Western countries for several more months.

    So NATO trained Ukrainians with tactics completely unsuited to the kind of war that Ukraine is fighting. Do you think this was because of malice or stupidity?

    • bucho@lemmy.oneEnglish
      0·
      2 years ago

      So NATO trained Ukrainians with tactics completely unsuited to the kind of war that Ukraine is fighting. Do you think this was because of malice or stupidity?

      Neither? You can only train people on the things you have experience with. Ukraine is fighting a unique war from the perspective of NATO trainers. That doesn’t make the training the Ukrainians have received worthless. They have benefitted quite heavily from training in squad tactics, combined arms, etc. Military training is far more extensive than just: “Hey - avoid minefields.”

      • Maoo [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
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        2 years ago

        Sounds like you think it’s stupidity, because the obvious first step in “teaching what you know” is recognizing whether the situation even remotely applies. If I’m trying to teach you to deep fry with a waffle iron, I’m the dum-dum and you are my victim.

        But I’ll offer a third option: casual negligence driven by a lack of care for Ukrainian life. When commands things there’s no expectation of success, you don’t cross the Ts or dot the Is.