update: he told me he thinks eating ass is disgusting. This person is irredeemable

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    “Running from lions.” Fucking idiot. Same old “we saved them from barbarism” bullshit that’s been fed to colonialist shills for centuries now. Find a new line lol. Guy’s probably just reciting shit he heard from some other racist asshole.

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      The Colonialism saved the barbarians is a pretty common argument and belief, I feel like slave taking from Africa improved Africa is another step further

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    this is such a fucking perfect distillation of your lowest common denominator r*ddit pilled sam harris loving facts and logic dork

    still be running from lions

    1. be racist ✅

    [Hitler] was, in fact, an effective leader these statements are factual

    1. confidently confuse your shitty opinion with facts, even though your entire fucking gimmick is understanding facts and logic ✅

    Thankfully, I don’t answer to anyone, so I can give my honest answer

    1. be racist ✅
  • KarlBarqs [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    acknowledging [Hitler] was, in fact, an effective leader

    Wasn’t his leadership famous for being incredibly dysfunctional? Like there wasn’t a single thing about the Nazi “state” as it was that was even remotely functional at any point

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      Effective at leading people by appealing to their emotions, not so great at leading the nation/economy or the military during war

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      Like there wasn’t a single thing about the Nazi “state” as it was that was even remotely functional at any point

      Did you know that Kristallnacht caused a Reich-wide foreign exchange crisis because of the sudden demand for imported glass?

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        Wonder which Euronazi company that’s still functioning today was responsible for producing Reich glass with slave labor

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          Speaking of that: Did you know the same company that delivered Zyclon B to the camps is now delivering anti-graffiti-spray to the holocaust memorial?

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          Iirc many of the Kristallnacht glass orders went to Belgium at the time.

          I’m assuming that the Euronazi company in question still makes Kristallnacht glass and severed chocolate hands to this day.

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      “He fixed the economy” is a typical one. It’s wrong though, he didnt, nazi Germany was in massive debt and plagued by unemployment. Short term it got a little bit better because he checks notes seized the wealth of minority groups and then forced them to do slave labour.

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      There’s a chance they could have won if he wasn’t such a unpredictable idiot who loved to be random and do military strategy based on how he was feeling that moment.

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        There is no situation in which Germany wins. Like even if one starts rolling back history with “well what if they weren’t sabotaging themselves with [insert literally any core Fascist ideological policy here]?” there is just no scenario where them being more competent and less self-destructive actually sees them through. A more competent Germany would have killed significantly more people before losing, but their loss was ultimately a material inevitability.

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        he was a moron, but they never had any shot. the Allies had more people and were producing more weapons than the Axis by orders of magnitude.

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            Actually wild how similar they were. Low in infrustructure, industry and manpower. Almost zero navy and under constant blockade. Won early battles before the oppositions full war machine was assembled, while in ground that favored them. But as soon as conditions changed they started losing. If it wasnt flat ground and it wasnt summer they were impotent.

            But they had good officers and some of their soldiers had fancy rifles. Which means they tooooootaly should’ve won.

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          yeah that’s a weird point that people make. like, that was the entire point of the war, there’s no universe where there’s a war and Germany doesn’t invade the USSR.

          • ThisMachineKillsFascists [they/them]@hexbear.net
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            Literally every fascist empire is doomed to fail eventually because their core ideology and entire economy relies on violent expansion and exploitation of those they see as lesser. They always spread themselves too thin and weaken their armies by waging constant war with either neighboring nations or their own people. Even if they ran out of outsiders to fight and steal from, they would eventually turn on themselves as the final adversary. We’re seeing it happen right now in the West with the rich cannibalizing their own countries as much as possible, practically ripping the copper wiring out to maintain some form of dominance.

            • CthulhusIntern [he/him]@hexbear.net
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              The endgame of fascism is that only the two most fascist people remain on Earth, and then the most fascist person executes the second most fascist person for removed.

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        They could not have won. Their army and their “reich” collapsed the moment they suffered a major defeat. The Soviet Union by comparison suffered horrific defeats and losses in the early stages of the eastern front and the nation rallied back and won the war. Why couldn’t the Germans do this? Because their “reich” was nothing more than plundering Europe, and it fell apart when it encountered its first test of resilience. The thousands of miles of captured territory was quickly lost despite plenty of opportunities to build and create contingencies in the event their offensives failed. They didn’t do it. They didn’t have a back up plan, or a way to transition their military into fighting a war of attrition.

        The militant fascism required them to invade everything and everyone as quickly as possible. To try to fabricate a scenario where the Nazis made smart and long-term war winning decisions is to effectively make them not Nazis to begin with. You can argue that they may have had more success if Rommel was given command of everything but he never would have been able to create the political movement that gave him the tools in the first place. To speculate further is to create an alternate history scenario where everything went perfect for the Nazis and they had a dramatic regime and ideology change in the midst of their conquests.

        Victory for the Nazis was total domination and nothing else. Conquering and holding Europe alone would never have been seen as “winning the war”, at least as far as they were concerned.

        The argument can be made that any military force could have won if they just made no mistakes and got lucky everywhere they needed to. Despite having most of the cards in their favor early on, they lost. That isn’t a reflection of how close they were to victory, but how fragile their victories had been.

      • KarlBarqs [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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        Not a chance. The Nazis straight up didn’t have the resources to wage the kind of war they fought. The only way to win would have been to somehow ally with the “Allies” (not out of the realm of possibility, to be fair) and get shipments of materiel and fuel that way. They simply did not have the oil to wage a war against anyone, and that meant no tanks, no trucks, and no navy.

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        Nah, the Nazis had no real chance. Really, they only got as far as they did because the Soviet Union fumbled at the beginning. Once the deficiencies were dealt with, it was game over. The closest chance the Nazis could get would be if Fascist Japan completely threw away their chance of forming their own fascist empire by (re)invading the Soviet Union. You could have a not completely implausible scenario where the IJA/IJN put enough of a fight and the Soviet Union is forced to fight two fronts, a western front with Nazi Germany and an eastern front with Fascist Japan. This completely unrealistic scenario would also involve the US staying out of the war because Japan decided to commit suicide by invading Siberia via Manchuria instead of bombing Pearl Harbor.

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    These fucking clowns really tell on themselves whenever they try and do the “you gotta hand it to Hitler” move but like, by what metric was hitler an effective leader? He was famously corrupt and the Nazis fucking lost

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    Yeah, the guy who started a two front war and got his country carved into two by in a joint effort by two countries that fucking each other, very effective, such leader, wow.

  • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    However, had we not brought them over here, it’s a good possibility they would still be running away from lions.

    Wtf does he think modern day Africa is lmao, he thinks we ride lions to school or some shit? That I keep a pet lion in the backyard? That they just roam though the cities like it’s an everyday thing?

    The only time I’ve seen a lion here was in a nature reserve, that literally had the word “lion” in it’s name lol.

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      That kind of stuff is fascinating. People all over the world invented, forgot, reinvented, etc technology all the time at completely different times in history.

      Humans can be smart af.

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          That’s a great example! I like looking at the different challenges cultures had when they created the same type of tech.

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              First I’ve heard of them. Pretty interesting.
              Check this out:

              The earliest sails were not made from canvas but from woven grass, which had to be dipped in tannins in order to be toughened up. This resulted in a reddish-brown hue, which was carried on when canvas masts were invented. The bright crimson masts seen in Hong Kong’s harbor today still bear this historical hallmark.

  • CrispyFern [fae/faer, any]@hexbear.net
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    CW: Self Harm

    Come to power in 1933

    Promise a 1000 year Reich

    Kill yourself 12 years later as your entire country get bombed back to the stone age

    Such an effective leader so-true