I am not American, so I could not vote, but I predicted the 2024 result based solely on the shenanigans of the DNC.
Trump v Sanders in 2016 would have gone the other way. Trump v Biden would have been closer, at least.
In both cases the Democratic establishment crowbarred a wildly unpopular candidate into the race, and in both cases Trump benefited from that to gain power.
Sure, MAGA voters supported him, but when you look at how those elections shook out, many Democrat voters sat out and many swing voters went away from Hilary/Kamala.
So yes, the MAGA voters are responsible for Trump, but so is the desire of the Democrat establishment to prop up candidates that would fully embrace their agenda.
this ^
also my observation as an outsider.
IDK how Bernie wasn’t elected as DEM presidential candidate. TBH I also don’t know how the REP allowed DT to become their candidate after the four years of absolute chaos the first time around. But man I am sure if DEMs hadn’t picked Harris, we’d all be in a wayyyy better place currently.
US Democrats, as represented by the modern party leadership have only one ideological goal, that is to preserve and promote neoliberal capitalism. They will adopt or throw away any policy stance including socially progressive policy positions, based on their interpretation of how that position aids their core goal. That is why, for example, they will effortlessly swing from a pro-immigration positions to deporting more immigrants and asylum seekers than the Republicans. Socialism in any form, however mild, is antithetical to neoliberal capitalism. That is why the leadership, as currently structured , will never ever permit an ideological socialist like Sanders to gain power. If you observe the Democratic Party leadership playing footsie with socialist-adjacent policies, like social security, it’s merely a tactical maneuver to mange its constituents toward their neoliberal capitalist goals. Never fool yourself into believing that the Democratic Party leadership have any actual ideological affinity for even mildly socialistic programs. They will effortlessly swing on that too if they feel they need to.
I literally believe that we are less than a decade from the Democrats explicitly embracing fascism. You will eventually see Democratic Party representatives doing Nazi salutes at their convention, just like the current Republicans, unless there is a major course correction in that party.
The DNC in general is what happens if you made a party that focuses only on messaging because doing actual things misses the point. They are utterly convinced that the way to victory is running right down the middle because the centrist position is where you have to make the least meaningful changes (or at least delver on them). Harris and Walz had a window but it disappeared once they committed to the “do nothing message.” It’s the same message Biden ran on with “nothing will fundamentally change.”
The recent overtures of Dems like Newsom are a furtherance of this rhetoric and belief, and his shift to the right is to where they now see the middle. Dems aren’t a party. They’re a fundraising apparatus. And that’s why the majority have no meaningful opposition to contribute. The funds raise themselves with a shell of a candidate running for president or a fascist in that same office, which is why they seem so unconcerned.
It’s to their own peril and the peril of us all, but there isn’t going to be a change to these peoples hearts. They are only there to serve themselves and be the alternate choice. They were never driven by fundamentally held ideals or values. People are confused why so few Dem politicians have risen to the moment but they have. You’re looking at what the Dem opposition looks like and what these people are truly capable of. It’s the highest form of their art.
I am not American, so I could not vote, but I predicted the 2024 result based solely on the shenanigans of the DNC.
Trump v Sanders in 2016 would have gone the other way. Trump v Biden would have been closer, at least.
In both cases the Democratic establishment crowbarred a wildly unpopular candidate into the race, and in both cases Trump benefited from that to gain power.
Sure, MAGA voters supported him, but when you look at how those elections shook out, many Democrat voters sat out and many swing voters went away from Hilary/Kamala.
So yes, the MAGA voters are responsible for Trump, but so is the desire of the Democrat establishment to prop up candidates that would fully embrace their agenda.
It sure sucks, I’ll grant you that
this ^ also my observation as an outsider. IDK how Bernie wasn’t elected as DEM presidential candidate. TBH I also don’t know how the REP allowed DT to become their candidate after the four years of absolute chaos the first time around. But man I am sure if DEMs hadn’t picked Harris, we’d all be in a wayyyy better place currently.
Because US seem to HATE anything remotely left of (far) right. This is probably due to decades of red scares.
US Democrats, as represented by the modern party leadership have only one ideological goal, that is to preserve and promote neoliberal capitalism. They will adopt or throw away any policy stance including socially progressive policy positions, based on their interpretation of how that position aids their core goal. That is why, for example, they will effortlessly swing from a pro-immigration positions to deporting more immigrants and asylum seekers than the Republicans. Socialism in any form, however mild, is antithetical to neoliberal capitalism. That is why the leadership, as currently structured , will never ever permit an ideological socialist like Sanders to gain power. If you observe the Democratic Party leadership playing footsie with socialist-adjacent policies, like social security, it’s merely a tactical maneuver to mange its constituents toward their neoliberal capitalist goals. Never fool yourself into believing that the Democratic Party leadership have any actual ideological affinity for even mildly socialistic programs. They will effortlessly swing on that too if they feel they need to.
I literally believe that we are less than a decade from the Democrats explicitly embracing fascism. You will eventually see Democratic Party representatives doing Nazi salutes at their convention, just like the current Republicans, unless there is a major course correction in that party.
The DNC in general is what happens if you made a party that focuses only on messaging because doing actual things misses the point. They are utterly convinced that the way to victory is running right down the middle because the centrist position is where you have to make the least meaningful changes (or at least delver on them). Harris and Walz had a window but it disappeared once they committed to the “do nothing message.” It’s the same message Biden ran on with “nothing will fundamentally change.”
The recent overtures of Dems like Newsom are a furtherance of this rhetoric and belief, and his shift to the right is to where they now see the middle. Dems aren’t a party. They’re a fundraising apparatus. And that’s why the majority have no meaningful opposition to contribute. The funds raise themselves with a shell of a candidate running for president or a fascist in that same office, which is why they seem so unconcerned.
It’s to their own peril and the peril of us all, but there isn’t going to be a change to these peoples hearts. They are only there to serve themselves and be the alternate choice. They were never driven by fundamentally held ideals or values. People are confused why so few Dem politicians have risen to the moment but they have. You’re looking at what the Dem opposition looks like and what these people are truly capable of. It’s the highest form of their art.