Just switch parties already, for Christ’s sake.
That guy has been such a disappointment.
Odd to see someone so seemingly left of the DNC pivot to being a DINO. Have to blame corporate money for some degree of it. He’s completely lost it.
The truth always rears it’s head eventually huh. Sad, was hopeful for this guy.
Didn’t he recently have a stroke? That might have something to do with it.
He had a stroke before he was elected.
It was a few days before he was elected, and he had an operation on election day. So if he did change there wasn’t enough time for anyone to know it.
What happened to him? This is a guy who got his national profile by fighting Trump’s voter fraud lies.
literal brain damage
Discovery: Brain damage linked to transition from Democrat to Republican
Some More News had a whole episode about him a few weeks ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28M_zkoAGQM
That was a great fucking episode. They broke everything down and Fetterman is a Democrat in designation only. He has some real “the south will rise again” vibes.
a Democrat In Legal Designation Only, if you will
He is getting a better offer from the republicans.
trump and the magats are on the way out. Everyone is scrambling to be the next big thing.
Can’t wait to put a different Democrat in his seat. What a disappointment for PA. Total loser.
I feel so vindicated. When he was first elected I was calling out his fake every man persona and getting downvoted to hell for it. Walking around in flip flops and a hoodie as if he wasn’t a silver spoon nepo baby. I never bought into his personality as genuine, and found all his bullshit to be a distraction from a lack of substance. Now it’s very clear he’s a silver spoon nepo baby, he’s chosen his side and it’s not with us regular folk. It’s with his wealthy buddies.
I am inclined to blame the stroke he had, as it has lots of examples of altering people’s personality’s.
No, he had said a bunch of zionist shit before he was elected that people, myself included, assumed he was simply ignorant on and would move left when confronted with the truth.
Turns out it was just wishful thinking.
The stroke probably didn’t help, and personality might account for how Fetterman expresses his support for genocide by rubbing his former supporter’s faces in it, but there’s not a “don’t genocide Palestinians” part of the brain that got turned off.
What you end up with when all you have is ‘the other guy is worse.’
His brain is not working properly after the stroke.
He had a near-death scare and changed from “for the good of the people” to “everyone for themselves” and sold out to make as much money for himself and his family as he can.
Just my theory, but shit like this can change people when it shows them their own mortality.
That’s just an excuse. Truth is he was never on your side. He’s a rich guy’s useless kid
Democrats are supposed to be a people who believe in redemption.
You have to want redemption first. It’s not just handed to you for breathing.
Someone’s not getting re-elected.
I think he wants a shot at the governor’s office. The Senate seems to cramp his style, and he doesn’t have the chops for national politics. He was Lt Gov, and has a significant advantage in name recognition and fundraising as a current Senator. Plus, the DNC is probably already vetting primary challengers to run against him in 2030.
PA is a weird state, in every way possible, and Shapiro did a lot of damage to his image in his attempt to land the VP job. If Shapiro decides not to run for reelection, the Democrats don’t have a deep bench in Pennsylvania. Austin Davis is probably the only other name worth considering.
Fetterman would not win anything in a nationwide race, but if he can bring the Pennsyltuckians out to vote for a Democrat, he would win the state in a landslide.
Unless Dr. Oz runs against him again.
He’s not winning the primary.
I think even Dr. Oz would have a shot there.
What a disappointment this guy turned out to be.
this guy is such a tulsi gabbard ass loser
This does sound like he’s got his tongue up Trump’s butthole, but he’s also not wrong. There are a lot of Trump supporters in rural Pennsylvania, and they are not swayed by the felony conviction or the racism or the dementia or the rape, because those inbred meth-heads are able to relate to Trump on a personal level.
He’s not wrong about some of what he said. He also said this about Trump being a felon-
I mean, I thought Democrats, we were the party that was all about second chances and that we’re not going to condemn somebody based on mistakes or things in that kind of situation.
The idea that the party would give a second chance to Donald Trump when he hasn’t even been sentenced yet is insane.
he also characterized trump’s actions as “mistakes”:
we’re not going to condemn somebody based on mistakes
I guess at 78 trump is still learning and making a few mistakes along the way
You’re right. I didn’t even think about that. What a stupid fucking thing to say.
I agree with you completely about that. Honestly, it sounds like somebody who’s about to have a scandal break.
It’s really funny seeing ppl make the surprised pikachu face about fetterman.
I don’t agree with his reasoning, but I do agree with his assessment that it’s a mistake to push the felon message so hard with trump.
If simply being convicted of a crime makes you a person not worthy of serious consideration in the political sphere, is that implicit endorsement of the legal system? Seems pretty conservative if you ask me.
Even if a person was to believe that our legal system is infallible and that there’s nothing wrong with weaponizing its decisions against one’s enemies, doesn’t bringing up the felony convictions beg the question of what they’re for? That hasn’t been a powerful message for democrats.
I have no love for trump, democrats seem to be messing up here though.
Do you think Trump just made mistakes rather than blatantly committed crimes?
Because Fetterman does. He said as much.
I honestly think it’s more likely that like almost every business, nonprofit and other organization I’ve had any experience with, trump doesn’t have a “proactive” filing regimen.
An old ass accountant I used to work with explained why it’s like this: why give them something to beat you over the head with? Just know the requirements, know the punishment and give the least amount of information you possibly can until compelled.
Of course, larger, richer groups are more able to take that strategy, but that’s a systemic problem.
But it doesn’t matter for the purposes of the crimes in question if it was an “innocent” mistake or purposeful omission.
I think it’s pretty disingenuous for the democrat message to be an attack on trump for simply having been convicted because democrats are at the same time trying to catch lefty and otherwise third party voters who see that criminal justice system as having serious fundamental flaws.
I think getting bogged down in the details of trumps convictions isn’t helpful to the democrats either because explaining them to people makes trump relatable. Nothing he actually did with money was a crime. It was not filing paperwork that was the crime.
The whole thing becomes more akin to having to pay a ticket for a taillight you got fixed because you didn’t bring the receipts to court.
“Your honor, the taillight in question is new, intact and installed on my car”
“Your car isn’t in my courtroom”
“It’s in the parking lot 80 feet to the west of your courtroom. I have a picture of it right here.”
“I will only admit a receipt”
Tbh the conviction rhetoric only appeals to reactionary right wing voters who want to punish people with records or makes him incredibly relatable to normal people.
If anything it seems like a hedge to move towards the right.
I have no idea what you are talking about. Trump was convicted of knowingly paying off Stormy Daniels with campaign funds. He was fully aware of it. There was no mistake.
Yeah I didn’t say that I think it’s a mistake, I said I think it’s not a good idea for the democrats to use the convictions as a lane of attack.
I even said that trump probably systemically doesn’t file paperwork he’s supposed to and that it’s common for people to do that.
Again, not filing paperwork is not the problem here. He paid a porn star hush money with campaign funds. He was fully aware of it. There was no mistake. There was no oversight. Nothing was overlooked. Nothing happened that he didn’t know about it. This was a very simple case.
That’s not illegal.
The crime is not reporting it.
It’s reported on a filing. Sometimes electronic but paperwork in spirit.
If the “problem” in your words is the crime, then the problem is paperwork.
The crimes are falsifying business records, not paying hush money.
The hush money was paid by trumps attorney who was then reimbursed with campaign funds. The crime is not paying hush money, the crime is covering it up.
As I said before, I don’t think it’s a very good idea to try to beat trump over the head with the convictions. At best you appeal to reactionary voters who have regressive ideas about crime and justice and at worst you have to reply to questions like “it’s legal to pay hush money out of campaign funds?”
I’m sorry… paying hush money with campaign funds isn’t illegal? Are you fucking joking?
If simply being convicted of a crime makes you a person not worthy of serious consideration in the political sphere, is that implicit endorsement of the legal system? Seems pretty conservative if you ask me.
Tell that to the “party of law and order” over there.
