Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s salvo seeks accountability over conservative supreme court justices’ ethics controversies
      • Carrolade@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        6 months ago

        In order to advance the measure, the Speaker of the House would have to allow it. He is an ally of the two. Then, once advanced, the House would have to vote to impeach, and the House is currently controlled by the gop, and they too are unlikely to impeach their allies.

        So the chances of it getting anywhere are near-zero, for this year anyway. Next year could potentially be different.

        • kinsnik@lemmy.world
          0·
          6 months ago

          honestly, even if the house is turned in november and they vote to impeach them, the next step is trial at the senate. it requires 2/3 of the votes, so they won’t get convicted and removed

          • Carrolade@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            6 months ago

            Yeah, fair point. A Senate trial would still be useful to publicly air all of the evidence though.

      • OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee
        1·
        6 months ago

        Republicans control the House and even if they didn’t, there is nothing close to a majority vote of the House that want to impeach members of SCOTUS.

  • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    6 months ago

    “Justice Thomas and Alito’s repeated failure over decades to disclose that they received millions of dollars in gifts from individuals with business before the court is explicitly against the law. And their refusal to recuse from the specific matters and cases before the court in which their benefactors and spouses are implicated represents nothing less than a constitutional crisis,” Ocasio-Cortez, a Democrat from New York, said in a statement.

    Moderate Dems don’t want to actually fix the SC.

    They love complaining about it. And saying that’s why they can’t fix anything.

    But they refuse to even bring up that we can fix it by impeaching the problematic ones or just expanding the court.

    People say “if we do it, trump will do it” which is just insane to me because why the fuck would any republican not do something unless a Dem does it first?

    • 2pt_perversion@lemmy.world
      8·
      6 months ago

      This is literally AOC trying to impeach them, which isn’t going to be successful in a republican controlled house anyway. It’s more just for principle and show.

      Court packing isn’t really an option right now for the same reason…if dems get firm control of the house and senate then it would be possible. For those who don’t know Manchin and Sinema are two “democratic” senators who won’t abolish filibuster or expand the supreme court so the current 51 - 49 democrat control of the senate isn’t real control either.

      • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
        13·
        6 months ago

        So when Biden and the party said 50 was enough to do stuff…

        Are you saying they were lying, or that you know more about it than Biden and his admin and they were just ignorant?

        And did you really just call AOC a moderate?

        I’m just not logically following what you’re saying. Like, I understand what you’re trying to say. It’s just not logically sound.

        • kinsnik@lemmy.world
          2·
          6 months ago

          So when Biden and the party said 50 was enough to do stuff…

          The Inflation Reduction Act passed only because of that extra senator. So it was true. 50 is good enough to do stuff. 50 is not good enough to do everything, only as progressive as the least progressive “democract” (which at the time were Manchin and Sinema

          • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
            01·
            6 months ago

            50 is not good enough to do everything, only as progressive as the least progressive “democract” (which at the time were Manchin and Sinema

            Party leadership said it was enough for the Dem party platform…

            That’s why the GA runoffs got an insane amount of donations from the entire country, hell I gave.

            It’s not that I’m arguing against you. I’m pointing out voters were lied to and that causes turnout depression for a significant amount of time, and for that reason alone the party needs to stop lying.

            It may help short term, but it hurts more long term

        • 2pt_perversion@lemmy.world
          1·
          6 months ago

          You’re really trying to strawman me and aren’t making good faith arguments here so I’m not going to waste too much time on a response… but take 51 and then subtract 2 from it (for Manchin and Sinema who won’t vote with dems on these issues) - is that 50? Besides that dems also don’t control the house.

          • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
            01·
            6 months ago

            Also, 50 was enough for Kamala to cast the tiebreaking vote to expand domestic fracking…

            Why is 50 enough to do what republicans want. But not enough to do what Dems want?

            Are you going to double down and say that’s what Dem voters want? More fracking?

            50 is enough for republicans to get what they want, just not enough for Dem voters to get what they want

            but take 51 and then subtract 2 from it (for Manchin and Sinema who won’t vote with dems on these issues) - is that 50?

            If you just forget that Biden and the party said 50 was enough when we knew two of them was Manchin and Sinema.

            So again:

            Are you saying they were lying, or that you know more about it than Biden and his admin and they were just ignorant?

            And for this:

            Besides that dems also don’t control the house.

            We’re just ignoring the two years we also had the House?

            Is any of this getting thru to you? Because honestly you’re not the only one here about to write off any chances of you understanding this…

            • jumjummy@lemmy.world
              2·
              6 months ago

              Math isn’t your strong point is it? 51 - 2 != 50. Go pick up your crayons and practice your numbers and stop with your bullshit spewing you always seem to be doing.

              The Democrats have not controlled both the house and senate for more than a few months in the last decade+. When they did, they got the ACA passed. Manchin and Sinema are DINOs at best.

          • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
            01·
            6 months ago

            So when Biden and the party said 50 was enough to pass the party platform…

            That was a __________

            And Kamala voted to expand domestic fracking because_____

            • Cenotaph@mander.xyzEnglish
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              6 months ago

              Yeah, he said 50 votes was. And with Mancin and Sinema voting elsewhere, that means they have how many votes?

              Let’s work together!

              If you have 50 apples, and 2 of them end up being full of worms and rotten, how many apples do you have to eat?

              That’s right! 48 apples!

              Good job!

              • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
                01·
                6 months ago

                So …

                During the GA runoffs when Biden told us 50 senators with a D by their name was enough to pass party platform:

                That was a ______

                Because Manchin was already in office, everyone knew what he was and what he would do. Except the Dem party leaders.

                Just not sure why you won’t answer if they were lying or ignorant of what the Senators in their party was like.

                Keep in mind, Biden got the nomination because he said he was a “senate whisperer” and never expected to actually get 50/50 till he won the election.

                Either Biden didn’t know what he was talking about. Or he lied.

                You seem to be saying Biden was ignorant of who Manchin is

    • OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee
      2·
      6 months ago

      So annoying that Democrats propose something, the Republican majority opposes and entirely quashes it, and the “take” is that we should blame Democrats for not getting it done.

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
    3·
    6 months ago

    At least there’s something. Agreed with sibling comment that nothing will come of it. But at least something is happening. The corruption is astronomical and a thumb in all of our eyes.

    • crusa187@lemmy.ml
      2·
      6 months ago

      Literally 0% chance to change for good if all that happens is bearing witness to corruption and wrongdoing.

      This is doing something. It’s hitting on the root of so many problems which have arisen in the US since the corporate takeover of government began in 1978 in partnership with the Supreme Court. I applaud AOC for this!

  • Subverb@lemmy.world
    2·
    6 months ago

    This election is so seriously fucked up that Dick Chaney and AOC are voting for the same candidate.

    Weird timeline we’re in.

  • empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    2·
    6 months ago

    This article is from July. Johnson has not allowed this near the floor and never will because hes a corrupt sack of fucked up rotten eggplants; even if he does, it will obviously fail on party line votes. Non story.

    • jpreston2005@lemmy.world
      5·
      6 months ago

      It’s a good reminder before a big election that one side is actively attempting to govern, while the other side is blocking any and all actions so as to curry more favor with their billionaire backers.

      • distantsounds@lemmy.worldEnglish
        01·
        6 months ago

        Please

        Both ‘sides’ are blocking any and all actions so as to curry favor with their billionaire backers.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      6 months ago

      Johnson has not allowed this near the floor and never will because hes a corrupt sack of fucked up rotten eggplants

      There’s a very good chance that Democrats retake the House after November. Any idea whether Hakkem Jefferies will allow this proposal to advance?