“Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses - because somewhere down the track of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.” - Dwight D. Eisenhower 1945
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Genuinely, Ike was the most recent Republican president that I truly respect. He was not perfect by a long shot, but he had his head on straight compared to many other politicians for a LOT of topics, considering the time in which he was raised, in the military, and serving as president.
After the Civil Rights Act was signed by LBJ, there was a massive party realignment, and the Republican Party of Eisenhower’s time died
That’s because he isn’t actually a republican. This was before the party switch.
The whole party switch thing is a bit of a misnomer, or mislead - the fact is, you had completely different worlds at the time. For example, Lincoln’s republicans supported the abolition of slavery, the abolition of alcohol, and westward expansion. The opposing democrats at the time supported white supremacy and protections of religious minorities. Then go forward a few years, and Democrats (like Wilson) wanted income taxes and silver-based money, while Republicans (like McKinley) wanted tariffs and gold-based money. Then after that, you get closer to what we know now, which is Democrats wanting larger government and welfare for the poor, while Republicans wanted less government and anti-communist foreign policy.
So there’s less of a switch and more of different gradual challenges to different shifting groups of ideologies. It just looks like a switch when you look at individual issues that look like they hold the same water as other issues today.
For example, you can have people that are absolutely for welfare, but also against religious freedoms; the poor need to be housed and fed, but everyone needs to be Christian. You could have then an opposing party that absolutely hates the idea of being theocratic, because they believe in the individual person’s freedom to be themselves, but at the expense of people who need support. Sort of the same way how Libertarians and mostly left circles can all agree that drugs shouldn’t be criminalized today, but have polar opposite beliefs for economic policies and government services.
Or smth idk I’m not an expert, I’m just taking a rly long shit
The Republicans started off as the party for rich Northerns. They took the abolitionist stance partly for humanitarian reasons, but also because industrialization of the South with it’s massive slave labor pool would have crushed Northern industrialists. The GOP is still the party of Northern business owners, they just convinced white workers that they were also looking out for them.
Hmm, how do we square that with the fact that Lincoln was very pro-labor and he argued against the myth that wealthy capitalists create jobs?: “It is [falsely] assumed that labor is available only in connection with capital; that nobody labors unless somebody else, owning capital, somehow by the use of it induces him to labor[…] Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration” -Abe Lincoln , First Annual Message to the Senate and House of Representatives
You should’ve ended that whole thing with, “But don’t let all this distract you from the fact that in 1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer’s table.”
I would say he is solidly in the middle of the party switch that took a long time. Nixon was still his VP and FDR, a progressive democrat, was before him. But there were still a lot of conservative democrats in the south. The parties used to be a lot more ideologically idiosyncratic.
Isn’t he also the one that was responsible for overthrowing the democratic governments of a lot of countries he thought were too communist?
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Plus the overthrowing of democratic governments in Latin America so that US-based fruit companies could profit. Hence: Banana Republic.
As an indigenous person in Canada i know from personal experience that there are a lot of bastards everywhere that don’t want to believe a lot of things that happened in the past.
Humans are not inherently rational creatures, it’s something that has to be cultivated.
Most people do not bother trying to cultivate it, and replace it with ‘gut instinct’ and ‘the guy at the bar said’.
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Right, but if you read that link, you’ll see that that quote isn’t direct but instead a historians recollection of “words to that effect” from Ike. The following quote CAN be directly attributed to him:
I made the visit deliberately, in order to be in position to give first-hand evidence of these things if ever, in the future, there develops a tendency to charge these allegations merely to “propaganda.”
So this post is propaganda, but still based on truth
I’d still call it misinformation and miss direction
because you are a troll
If you visit the Holocaust museum you can see the only known photos documenting the attrocities as they happened. Someone snuck a camera and film in to a Auschwitz prisoner who managed to take 4 or 5 grainy photos showing the guards piling and burning bodies.
https://www.auschwitz.org/en/gallery/historical-pictures-and-documents/extermination,11.html
These are probably the pictures you’re talking about.
Lots of spelling mistakes on that page, could they really not proofread it a bit? “Memebers”, “backgroudn”, etc…
Sadly, I give it 10 years before AI has eroded public trust in photos so extensively that no one believes any pictures or videos they see anymore
Eisenhower, the last good republican
I dunno, I had a lot of respect for McCain while he was still kicking. I might not have agreed with his politics but he was never malicious, unlike the majority of Republicans nowadays.
Yeah McCain was every Democrat’s favorite Republican. Dude just wanted to serve his country without all the social bullshit, can’t really fault that.
He was a Republican and a good man. Modern Republicans celebrate god awful hate filled attitudes. Not much different from the far left, just opposing policies, really.
The great works of Eisenhower while president of the US
Funding, and arming, paramilitary death squads to keep the price of super essential things like, like bananas, low by having the CIA create a coup in Guatemala. The resulting 40 year ethnic cleansing of Guatemalan natives. Project Ajax in Iran that over-threw their government for the Sha. Operation Haik which attempted to coup Indonesia in 1958. Purging the government of dissenters under the auspices of them being gay, and basically making the burgeoning lavender scare policy. Was instrumental in the formative days of what became the Vietnam war. Created, and authorized, policy that basically gave the US DOD and CIA cart blanche to interfere with foreign powers in the interest of the US’s industry.
These are just the things I can come up with off the top of my head.
We have to distinguish between the Dulles Brothers and Eisenhower. The brothers were two of the biggest gangsters to ever step foot in DC. Because they were allowed to run operations without the knowledge of the president and they lied and manipulated presidents is not completely clear what Eisenhower knew.
do you also buy that Reagan was unaware of the issues with the Iran contra too?
Bush didn’t know the WMDs were a lie!
He probably didn’t know. Bush shuffled Cheney off to the margins and had Rummy resign in 2006 when he realized that he had been manipulated. From then on he leaned heavily on Condoleeza Rice. But the main thing is that the Dulles brothers were long gone.
One or two from this list must be good.
Cross reference it with a list of those who subsequently endorsed him and after eliminating those names maybe you can find one or two. Maybe.
With the power of generative AI and MAGA chucklefucks, now some bastard will just claim its a deepfake or a deepstate.
It sucks, and we’re not ready for it.
One reason we know that the moon landings were real is that the technology to fake them simply didn’t exist in the 1960s. They didn’t even have video tape back then, let alone computer graphics. Add to that the fact that almost everybody in the US got their news from one of 3 TV networks, or from newspapers that actually cared about and could afford to do real journalism. That means that when people saw the moon landings they knew they were witnessing something real. It was unfortunately also easy to cover up real things (like MK Ultra) when you only had to deal with 3 TV networks.
These days, especially for Americans, there are no authoritative sources of truth. (Australia has ABC, Britain has BBC, Canada has CBC, but the US has no not-for-profit news source that doesn’t have to worry about pleasing advertisers). Add to that that every kind of media is subject to “deepfakes” and other kinds of manipulation.
And, this now affects historical events. When people in 1969 witnessed the moon landing, almost nobody thought it was fake. In 1969 it would have been relatively easy to remove almost any doubts anybody might have. But, memories are faulty and it’s so easy to create fake evidence, that now even people who were alive and watching it live when the moon landing happened are now starting to doubt it.
In courts, we require evidence of various kinds because we know how unreliable people’s memories are. But, it feels like we’re heading for a future where your own memories may be more reliable than any research you’re able to do. And, we’re just not ready for that post-truth world.
Uhm… PBS/NPR exists and is frequently cited as the most trustworthy outlets.
That’s not the same at all.
Your stipulation was non-profit news that is trustworthy. How does PBS/NPR not meet that definition?
Despite Public Radio being creates by an act of congress, good old Ronnie Reagan slashed it funding in 1980. Currently, it gets ~25% of its funding from the government, but only a fraction of that is direct funding. Most funding comes through member stations getting funding from state or Federal sources, or from state funded universities. That means it needs corporate or nonprofit sponsors that can impact the incentives of a media organization.
PBS gets a bigger chunk, ~40% if it’s funding from State, Federal, and educational sources. Still more dependent on external funding, such as corporate advertising, than internal.
Incidentally. This is the exact same reason people are trying to take down Telegram right now.
Please an you elaborate? I don’t think I understand.
If the Holocaust were happening today Liberals would support it.
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It does suck that she seems to want to continue sending weapons to Israel. I don’t support that. But there are a zillion other reasons I do support her. Plus the other guy wants to “finish the job” and just wipe out Gaza. That’s worse, fyi
Can you source your claim?
Do you think Drumpf would somehow be kinder to the Palestinians?
“If”?
Are you guys all getting brain worms now like you did adult diapers and ear tampons?
Cope harder
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Yeah, I mean, it’s not like the Palestinians are having their homes and property systematically seized, or being forced into ghettos with brutal conditions akin to living in an open air prison, or being sent to torture camps, or being exterminating en masse. I mean, you’d have to be a real dumbfuck to think all of those things were happening right now.
that’s what happens when hamas uses human shields which they do and the one responsible for their deaths is solely hamas? is that too hard to understand?
Even Israel has ceased using that lousy excuse.
OK, so let’s pretend that Hamas using human sheilds necessitates the killing of (at least, but probably more than) 40,000 people. I think that in most conflicts, when innocent hostages are. taken, the normal response isn’t to indiscriminately kill the hostages, but let’s ignore that for now.
How does that Hamas using human shields make it necessary for Palestinians in Gaza to live without clean drinking water for a decade before October 7th? How do human shields make it necessary to torture (tortures which include beating, rape, and the use of restraints so tight they havd led to amputations) Palestinians in prison camps? How does it justify Israeli settlers seizing homes in the West Bank, a territory that isn’t even controlled by Hamas? Because it doesn’t really seem like, “Hamas is hiding among civilians, so it’s hard to target them without hitting civilian targets,” can possibly justify any of those things.
Yes. You hid from literally every other point I made, and you were still spectacularly wrong, you sniveling coward.
Don’t waste your time with these troll propagandists, their entire income depends upon them not agreeing with you
are we in oct 2023?
Prior to the latest violence, Gaza’s water supply was already unable to meet the World Health Organization’s minimum requirement for daily per capita water consumption.
A 2020 study in the journal “Water” found the quality of the groundwater in the aquifer had “deteriorated rapidly,” in large part because it had been pumped out to meet the demands of Gaza’s large population quicker than it could be replaced by rainwater.
The aquifer is also polluted by untreated wastewater, leaving 96.2% of household water from the aquifer undrinkable, according to a 2020 report from B’Tselem, the Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories.
Most literate genocide denier.
Bro links an unrelated video of drone footage before 7/10 and draws conclusions about the water in Gaza. This is beyond outrageous.
Refusing to acknowledge the Israeli settler colonialism, genocide and apartheid OR justifying it with the excuse of Israeli self defence is exactly how most German citizens dealt with the concentration camps. The situation is far too serious and tragic to deal with petty trolls like you, but I will answer for anyone else seeing this.
The amnesty international substantiates its reports that the human shields claim is a myth and that it is proven it is Israel in fact that continuously commits this war crime:
https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/mde15/015/2009/en/
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2014/07/israelgaza-conflict-questions-and-answers/
(Ctrl+f “human shields” to find it in the reports)
Here’s the Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International reports on how the Israel apartheid works, the constitutional discrimination against Palestinians and the numerous laws that oppress and restrict rights of the Palestinians living in Israel:
Even Israelis themselves admit it. Here’s their biggest human rights organisation admitting it:
https://www.btselem.org/publications/fulltext/202101_this_is_apartheid
Now here’s why we say Israel built the biggest open air prison according to the Humans Rights Watch:
https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/06/14/gaza-israels-open-air-prison-15
And here’s how Israel systematically destroys Gaza’s crops, public infrastructure, wells, electricity and water facilities. In a word, how Israel systematically threatens with extinction 2 million people trapped in a tiny strip:
That’s how and why they don’t have clean water.
Everything I’ve linked is before 7/10 btw. It’s all a coordinated systematic attempt by Israel to ethically cleanse the Palestinians waaay before any excuse for any hostage.
Nazi Germany’s genocide might have been different, but their excuses weren’t.
Watch some dumbfuck think genocides need a fucking tier list and that some lives are worth more than others…
I mean, some lives are definitely worth more than others.
Pedophiles, rapists, murderers, cops, for example, definitely are not in the same rank as regular human beings. Their contribution to society is not worth keeping them around
Israel is killing Palestinian children at higher rates than Jewish children died at Auschwitz: https://m.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-787742
source: hamas health ministry
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The Jerusalem Post
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According to the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry, about 10,000 minors have died in the war from October 7 until January 8, which would be approximately 107 killed per day.
most literate islamist
