• Beaver@lemmy.caOP
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      7 months ago

      I wish it was more obvious to the average person as it is needed to counter the mainstream media’s false narrative that “processed plant-based protein alternatives are less healthy than meat”

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        7 months ago

        Not that I doubt you, but where are you seeing them talk about it AT ALL?

        I’m maybe just looking in the wrong places but beyond the occasional adverpinion piece, it’s not even brought up.

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    7 months ago

    I am once again asking for meat and dairy subsidies in the US to be shifted to alternatives like plant-based products and lab meat.

    One of the biggest barriers to alternatives is the cost. Currently they cost like twice as much as the “normal” product. If they cost a roughly equal amount, more people would start buying them instead. The US has huge agriculture subsidies; we could shift them to alternatives to encourage a change in production and a change in retail purchasing.

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      Yeah, meat is so heavily subsidized. And I’ll acknowledge that this is one of those problems that you can’t really solve unless you’re willing to yank your political career and your party. People don’t want to quit meat like they don’t want gas to be expensive enough to account for the damage done by using it

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      7 months ago

      Personally, I do not want any lab grown meat, and as for the pseudo burgers and chicken (I grew up vegetarian) the “nutritional” benefits are not their due to over processing

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        7 months ago

        That’s one opinion. I will take all of the lab grown meat thanks. I’m vegetarian, working to vegan. If there was pork chop that came out tomorrow that was made in a lab and no pig died for it - I’m fucking eating it.

        Impossible foods have allowed me to go veggie, so I think we should sing their praises.

      • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world
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        So? Don’t eat them? I dont see why you are upset at the suggestion of changing our national subsidiaries away from what we know is harming the environment.

        Besides, there is a lot more to eat veg than the proceed Morningstar, Boca, Immposible junk. I mostly eat rice, beans, curry and tofu I prepare myself.

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        Personally, I don’t want to be part of a human society which purposefully creates huge amounts of suffering for animals (including human animals). Yet, here we are.

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    Next you’re going to say that it’s good that my primary source of protein is high in fiber and fixes nitrogen in the soil. No shit. Over processed food is bad, but meat is really bad for the planet and while it may be healthy in small amounts it’s probably less than every day, much less every meal like is common in the developed world.

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    For all those replying with “well yes, we already knew this”.

    Yes, but now you have the numbers to back up the conclusions you already drawn.

    Of course food produced from plants will be environmentally better than those made from animals, but now, next time you see someone actually doubting that, you can rebuff them with numbers and science.

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      But those numbers already existed. Those conclusions weren’t drawn up out of nothing.

      If 70% of the food we cultivate goes directly to our livestock, then we could only ever eat 30% of it ourselves. Meaning, for something that takes up 1/3 of our plate, we use almost 5 times as much resourses just to feed it as either of the other 2/3.

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        No, as we humans are omnivores. We can digest non animal fats and dont need directly a heck load of chemicals injected into a block of soy beans paste.

        Additionally WE can make that choice but cats that are obligatory carnivore would never choose vegan as they are obligated to do so.

        If a vegan diet is ethical for a cat is unknown.

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    The most healthy plant based meat alternatives have always been, Beans & Legumes. You’re welcome!

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      I’m not vegan, but I’ve been trying to limit my groceries to have 1 meat based dinner each week. I have really enjoyed using chickpeas as my protein for lots of different things. My favorite right now is a chickpea shawarma.

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      And they’re easy! Like I enjoy fake meat as a treat, but as my wife can’t eat soy my primary meat replacement is black beans. Sometimes butter beans. It’s great, it’s easy, and I feel good.

      That said the real best is lentils. Nothing is healthy like lentils are. They’re just difficult to cook right

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          i fear eating them, since i had 2 days long migraines often, i think cooking them like this is really nesscessary, to get rid of toxins from the outher shell. but i am far to hungry for this method.

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            Just an FYI, that was a joke. Lentils cook faster than any other bean and you do not need to soak them. They are super healthy for you.

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              there are species of lentils you have to soak in water for days, and then cook really long, i didnt made that up.

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    7 months ago

    and way more lucrative.

    just don’t eat meat if you don’t want to.

    you don’t need highly processeed junk food that dresses up as meat.

    protein? who are you kidding? that stuff will be full of seed oils, sugar, wheat and carbs. with some plant protein sprinkled in between.

    lab meat, get out of here. why should yout eat lab meat when normal meat is unhealthy in the first place?

    and you think they won’t stretch that lab meat with wheat, sugar and seed oils as well? why wouldn’t they?

    if you believe they want to noourish you into best health while disregarding profit, i have a bridge to sell you.

    the only reason to get you to eat hoghly processed junk food that dresses up as meat is money.

    they dont care about your health or the planet.