DuckDuckGo, Bing, Mojeek, and other search engines are not returning full Reddit results any more.

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    8 months ago

    I am hoping (probably naively so) that lemmy’s stock of technical answers will continue to grow and eventually become a half decent archive for people to search for potential solutions.

    • Hot Potato@lemmy.worldOP
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      8 months ago

      tbh I’ve never seen a Lemmy link when searching for stuff. Is it too small to show up? Or do search engines not index Lemmy instances?

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        8 months ago

        A lot of Fediverse admins are just normal people like you and me with a budget, and disallowing bots and spiders helps save bandwidth, and the budget.

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          8 months ago

          Yep. I block all bots to my instance.

          Most are parasitic (GPTBot, ImageSift bot, Yandex, etc) but I’ve even blocked Google’s crawler (and its ActivityPub cralwer bot) since it now feeds their LLM models. Most of my content can be found anyway because instances it federated to don’t block those, but the bandwidth and processing savings are what I’m in it for.

      • u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)@lemmy.sdf.org
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        8 months ago

        I’ve seen some when I appended “Lemmy” just like “Reddit”. But it relies on lemmy being in the domain name.

        Also I assume even when people click on those results, they don’t get ranked much higher because it’s so many different domains while reddit is just one.

      • chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net
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        8 months ago

        I’m inclined to think due to the nature of the platform, contents are constantly duplicated to the eyes of search engines, which hurts authoritativeness of each instance thereby hurts ranking.

      • NotAnotherLemmyUser@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        One of the major problems with Lemmy is that many posts get deleted and that nukes the comment section (which is where most of the answers will be).

        I wish Lemmy deleted posts closer to how Reddit deletes posts - the post content should be deleted, but leave the comments alone.

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        8 months ago

        You can always add “site:lemmy.world” to your search (remove the quotes). I commonly do that, as well as the same for reddit or stack overflow.

    • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
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      8 months ago

      Highly doubtful.

      The few times I have bothered to ask technical questions I mostly get one of the following:

      1. Ideological ranting. “The problem is you aren’t running arch linux in that corporate environment with proprietary hardware you need to interface with”
      2. Complete refusal to read the question. “I totally didn’t read that you said Foo was not viable for reasons XYZ but you should use Foo”
      3. Complete nonsense

      Reddit has a lot of that too but ALSO has the institutional knowledge of people who actually care enough to answer. Similar to stack overflow.

      I try to help where I can but this is an enthusiast “site”. So you have all the people who suggest all the crap they heard on linus tech tips rather than “Okay, for my day job we use X but no sane person should use that at home. Look into Y”.


      That said: I have said it before and I’ll say it again. The age of the online message board for tech support is long gone. Because the super useful results might be talking about a bug from five years ago rather than a bug from today. The answer really is ephemeral discord servers.

  • crawancon@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    whoever is left there deserves whatever happens. they really showed what they thought of the users over the years. culminating in app/api control.

    …and Pepperidge Farm definitely remembers saydra.

  • BurnSquirrel@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Still couldn’t get me to use it, I use DDG which can switch between search engines and search sites very quickly with it’s ! syntax (Everyone goes on about privacy, but this is pretty much it’s best feature). Google results are consistently the worst for me if I’m hitting multiple search engines

  • thejml@lemm.ee
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    8 months ago

    Honestly the percentage of Reddit posts that Google returns which still actually retain their info is dropping substantially for me. Last few times it pulled up a Reddit post that should have my answer instead had either the question or the answers I needed deleted.

  • Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyz
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    8 months ago

    Even back when I used Reddit, I had such a burning hate against Reddit results that I blacklisted them. So this is actually improving things for me, as I use DDG by default.

    As such I hope that this decision becomes another nail in each of their (Google and Reddit’s) coffins.

  • Etterra@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    I literally only use Reddit for one particular game sub and nothing else, so I just go directly there. I literally have no other use for it, so this change means exactly diddly dick to me.