Hmmmm maybe, and just throwing this out there, maybe if they want to win they could stop doing a genocide. It feels like that’s what people are saying here. Just a thought, probably nothing
Doing genocide is more important than winning the election, which is why democrats don’t care if republicans win.
So who do they think they’re going to vote for? Trump has also continually vowed his support of Israel and wouldn’t have done anything different (except maybe sending even more weapons to them), while at the same time not supporting Ukraine at all.
It would be a lot easier for Democrats to stop supporting Israel if Trump was the one bankrolling the genocide.
I honestly don’t believe that for a minute. You’ve got people who support Israel because that’s what they’ve been taught to do their whole life, and then you have people actually paying attention to what’s been going on and getting called antisemitic for calling out the genocide. Unfortunately the people who are unwilling to change their ways far outnumber the people who care.
It wouldn’t cause all Democrats to flip on Israel, but a lot of Democrats are only supporting Israel because of inertia. Supporting Israel is just normal, so that’s what they do. If Trump were president it would force them to rethink how “normal” their support actually is.
You’re underestimating how much Democrats hate Trump. If anything could force them to rethink anything it’s agreeing with him.
Heh maybe so, but is it really worth the risk of the damage Trump would do if he were in office again? Judging by your nick, I’m sure you’re aware of all the harm he’s done to the LGBT+ community?
Yeah man, we just gotta vote for the right guy and we can fix things
Just one more vote, just one more president, just one more and then we can vote for someone less evil than last time I promise bro
If you believe that then I have a bridge to sell you. Sometimes we have a chance to vote on something that will improve things, but mostly we’re lucky if the best we can do is vote to keep things from getting any worse.
Yeah you’re right, I WILL vote for enhanced genocide with a side of pretending to be less fascist! Blue No matter who!
but mostly we’re lucky if the best we can do is vote to keep things from getting any worse.
This is EXACTLY WHY things KEEP GETTING WORSE
YOU let them. We all keep letting them, by participating in their rigged system. Year after year they do the same song and dance and we move further from any real change, until people like you are desperate for “things to just not get worse” Can’t you see?
You’re in an abusive relationship and too afraid to leave your abuser, that’s fine who can blame you for being afraid, but you should at least know what you’re really doing rather than deluding yourself.
You guys have one chord and think it’s a song.
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Cornel West is the best option available, the united states NEEDS an intellectual, philosopher, and social critic in office. It’s been an exceptional shit show more recently. Voting in someone with the ability to actually contemplate the consequences of their actions and not just listen to those with the most money is severely needed to get back on the path to being a functional country.
True enough, but until we get some sort of ranked-choice voting, there’s no chance of a 3rd party candidate being more than a minor blip in the voting numbers.
So your suggestion is to keep supporting the same people for ever no matter what they do.
How could that possibly lead to anything changing. You are explicitly sending the message “well keep supporting you no matter what so please do what we want even though it won’t make any difference to you if you dont.”
No, my suggestion is to not “waste” your vote on an election where one candidate has already attempted to overthrow democracy but somehow still has a large number of supporters. My county votes somewhere around 85% Dem and the whole state always leans blue so there’s no chance of Trump getting the nomination here, and in 2016 I was willing to vote on a 3rd party candidate to show my displeasure over Trump/Clinton… but in 2020 there was no way I was going to give up even one vote against Trump.
When both parties are equally bad, or when there’s no doubt who will win anyway, then yeah definitely vote 3rd party and make a statement that we’re tired of the same shit. But when the race is this close and one candidate has already stated his plan to do far more damage, then every vote counts and we really need to stick with the candidate who can actually win.
They’re going to vote for somebody who is not open about the fact that they are doing a genocide. if that’s too high of a bar for dems to clear that is dems problem and nobody else.
“You have tonvote for biden or trumpnwill bimb the rubble” is not an effective campaign strategy. They’ve concentrated the entire population into rafah and now they’re moving into rafah, exactly like every single person criticizing Biden has been screaming they’ll do since Biden started quadruppling down on unconditional support.
Trump might actually not be worse for Palestine because at this rate by next January there won’t be anybody left to genocide.
Powerful. Trump will surely be the savior of Palestine.
