I see this way too often here on Lemmy, so I want to post this. Starting a commune is legal in most countries. If you believe in communism, you can found a commune and show us all how great it is.

You lack money? Well, that is literally what stock markets and venture capitalists (capitalism) are created to solve. If you are ready for an IPO, you can sell shares to raise funds. If you are not, you can get Venture Capital in exchange for shares until you are ready for an IPO.

Getting rid of capitalism means you need to find a different way to obtain funding for new ventures. And if your system relies on government charity (some government board handing you money) or taking resources violently, than your system sucks.

Edit: I don’t mean that this is a replacement for full communist system. I mean this as a way to get some of the advantages while showing sceptics (like me) it can work and is better. A first step.

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    But those are the things you are leaving out. How is this public funding collected, who decides where it goes, how are these people elected?

    These are the kind of things you need to figure out for your communist system to work. My belief is you can’t, because it does not work. You will not be able to create a system that works for the greater good while humans follow their selfish interests.

    But maybe I am wrong. Prove me wrong. Show me a detailed plan. “Some committee that is somehow elected will distribute some funding” is so vague there is no way to debate over it.

    IMO you and so many others use this kind of vagueness to mask the massive issues communism has, that prevent it from being viable in the real world.

    The infuriating thing is that so many people are supporting a violent revolution, that could easily result in hundreds of thousands of deaths while seemingly having no real plan of what to do once they win.

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      okay, why are you imposing that on me though? I’m not a violent revolutionary, I’m just someone who believes we need a far more democratic approach to our economy. I can’t resolve a perfect system for you in perfect detail and I find this kind of argument frustrating. if you want an example of a system, I believe something similar to project cybersyn would be great. unfortunately the US has overthrown or otherwise stunted every socialist project, but we have lots of data to suggest that UBI, co-ops, and social welfare are highly effective at improving quality of life for everybody, as well as productivity.