• Tunnelvision [they/them]@hexbear.net
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          I said this in another comment sorry for double posting. Keep in mind is entire career he tried to ally himself with the west up to the point they literally went to war with him. Putin does not get a pass just because he’s allied with with these nations, we need to come at this from the position of “the least he could do is have good relations with these nations”

          Putin is not a communist so his actions, while much better than the US, should be seen under the lens of right wing and be criticized as such when applicable.

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              You gonna actually point anything out? or just keep typing in caps because it makes your non point look better? What are you even saying at this point. It shouldn’t be out of hand to admit Putin has done good things, but we should be skeptical of a guy who tried to join the Nazi club for his entire career. He doesn’t get a cookie for having what should be considered normal relations to the global south you fucking ding dong.

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                i just want you to use historical materialism evenly instead of haphazardly and drop your western programming of russiaphobic exceptionalism. For Putin and only Putin we mind read and judge based on hypotheticals.

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                  You’re barking up the wrong tree, I’m easily one of the most openly pro SMO people on this site.

                  drop your western programming of russiaphobic exceptionalism.

                  Literally where?

                  For Putin and only Putin we mind read and judge based on hypotheticals.

                  Again literally where?

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                    sorry, I thought I was talking to the other person and got mixed up. Lots of comments.

                    I’m just saying, the mind reading and hypotheticals about Putin gets real old from supposed “materialists” and “realists” on most other subjects. China and Deng did join the Nazi club that you’re shitting on Putin for trying to join, they didn’t join NATO militarily but damn did they sell out big time and help the US and the west a lot, that shit with Kissinger is embarrassing too. I try to see the bigger picture because maybe they had to do it. Putin was leading a defeated and looted Russia, he was groveling because Russia was weak and he had no choice. Now he no longer does that.

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          Keep in mind is entire career he tried to ally himself with the west up to the point they literally went to war with him. Putin does not get a pass just because he’s allied with with these nations, we need to come at this from the position of “the least he could do is have good relations with these nations”

          • Still, it’s hard not to feel a little bad for him being like Homer Simpson trying to join the no Homers club

            Yeah he sucks and he was trying to join an evil organization but they were such assholes to him on a personal level, like they just rejected him for being Russian

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          Not the communists I was referring to, and aligning with states which practices an ideology is not the same as supporting and sanctioning said ideology. He represses communism at home because he likely understand the threat they pose to his power.

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            Tell that to the millions of Syrians he saved from western backed jihadist fascism.

            He’s the foremost anti-imperialist force on Earth currently, adopting the stances of KJU with the military and geopolitical might to back it up. Meanwhile China putts around trying to placate the west still, and meanwhile half the global south is run by open compradors. Why don’t you focus your ire on our enemies who are many instead of our foremost friend in a small group of friends?