• rootsbreadandmakka [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    folk punk hate? on my hexbear? some of you have never passed out face down in a boxcar forty in both hands and it shows

    (on another note, we don’t have normal emojis anymore? i need my little guy blowing air out his nostrils)

  • Mardoniush [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    “I sleep in a rusted out CNT/FAI armoured car. I wear a red and black bandana everywhere and I haven’t smiled since the Haymarket Martyrs died. I’m a normal person and people like me”

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          No vibes are “objectively the worst” because everything that flows from a human mind without reproducing reactionary thought is enough. Putting arbitrary limitations on the art one has to produce, or trying to coerce other’s art into these little corners of what is “cool” or “not cringe”, is the root cause of the more “intellectual” forms of cringe culture and the numerous sacrifical trash of the week rage bait right wing youtuber content mills.

          People on the internet in general need to learn that, while it’s perfectly fine to dislike something, not vibe with it, whatever, that that doesn’t make it “bad” and even if saying it’s “bad” isn’t meant in any sort of “objective” way, it still reproduces and reinforces a culture of self-policed expression, of masking.

          Lots of critiques people make on the internet of things other than music still work because it always consists of something other than just “it’s bad”. It’s always, “oh, this reproduces this ideology I don’t like”, or “oh, it doesn’t make sense because of this plot hole”. But because any sort of similar trait in music can be equally desirable for another person as it is repugnant for the one pointing it out, you can’t really do this with music, unless you’re critiquing lyrics or a music video specifically.

          I don’t see any room for calling music (or it’s titles) good or bad beyond mean-spirited bullying, which yes, can be good, if it’s reactionary music. Punk isn’t, well, most of the time.

          The fact of the matter is that this is just objectively wrong, and plenty of people like “whimsical” things, and plenty of people DESPISE “whimsical” things, and plenty of people just don’t care, and that’s going to be a thing with any vibe or aesthetic until the sun boils over.

    • y’know i’ve seen the same band
      so many dozens of times
      but with dozens of different names
      across dozens of different state lines
      and I won’t always admit it
      but I think that the world’s better off with them in it
      so if we’re pickin sides
      i guess that i’m am for every shitty three-chord high school punk band

  • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    when it’s her turn to wake up at 6am and water the chickens

    if youuuuuuu think getting up early to take care of the homestead is a “taking turns” kind of thing, you might not be a redneck

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      what is wrong with hexbear users and punk? actually, scratch that, what’s wrong with them and music in general? can’t go a single second mentioning a band or something without someone shitting out their own random take about music as if it’s a gift from God themself.

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        you come onto the Posters Instance, and complain about people posting about one of the most postable topics in existence

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          It’s not the posting, it’s the posting as if your post is somehow objective fact

          like “i dont like this genre” is a normal and fair thing that people say, but “this genre is BAD” is a weird way to put it

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            You can interpret through context cues whether a statement is an opinion or a fact without someone pointing it out as a disclaimer. If I say ‘the red hot chili peppers suck’, it should be pretty easy to figure out its a subjective statement because whether or not music is bad is inherently subjective and you can tell its just my opinion because I’m the one who said it. No one is ever stating that these are demonstrable facts because that would be impossible so even if somehow that is what they mean it can’t possibly be true and must therefore be a statement of their opinion despite their intent and should be treated as such.

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                My gripes are personal. I’ve lost all my high school friend to folk punk, not that they died from it, (those were people I met later) they just started dressing like Peter pan and calling themselves stuff like Feather and Navi and starting bands called Drop Out/Fall in Love and Buy Nothing Life despite being recent high school graduates with swimming pools cause at the end of the day they were just upper class band geeks. Punk is loud and noisy rock n roll that gives you permanent hearing loss from basement shows. Punk is about wearing studs and having cool hair.

                Me barely ironically

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                  “Real Punk” only consists of the nyc/london Classic Punk scene and the 80’s hardcore scene and its descendants. What is known by “Folk Punk” is nothing but Folk music with questionable real punk influence. When people try to argue that bands like Billy Bragg are not real punk, while saying that Johnny Hobo is, I can’t help not to cringe because they are just as fake punk as Billy Bragg (plus the adolescent cringe). Real punk sounds ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat HATEFUL. Fake punk is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music. Some examples of REAL PUNK are Amebix, Catharsis, Blackbird Raum (the only real punk band from the folk punk scene) and Man is the Bastard. Some examples of FAKE PUNK are Pat the Bunny, Chris Burrows and Defiance, Ohio PUNK BELONGS TO HARDCORE NOT TO FOLK, POP PUNK, ALT ROCK OR ANY OTHER MAINSTREAM GENRE

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                A person can speak an opinion objectively and it’s still an opinion. It’s a very very common use of speech. That doesn’t mean it isn’t inherently an opinion, if you respond to an opinionative statement as if it were factual I’d say that’s more on the respondent. If someone is stating an opinion factually and making bild statements around it, they could in fact be using hyperbole. This is all really normal forms of communication thst as soon as people log on they lose the ability to parse.

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                  Im not saying you’re wrong, I’m saying that a lot of (other to be honest because it’s not really present here) times I’ve seen people then take that opinion and then start attacking or demeaning for instance, people who like what they said they dislike. I’m talking about music here specifically, not Treat Discourse.

                  I am somewhat disconnected from the whole thing because I have a hard time really, like, genuinely finding genres bad. There’s probably something out there I dislike but calling it “bad” gives me bad feelings, because I’m constantly aware of the fact that other people can have different tastes, and have had my tastes change dramatically, so I could just end up accidentally implying I have bad taste later in life or something.

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          The amount of time I spend with this community correlates with how different from other places online I perceive it to be. It’s waxed and waned over the last 6 or so years, but lately I feel like I’m biding my time until someone enthusiastically different (better) than the rest of the Internet comes along

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            Imagine the worst house show you’ve ever been to

            “This song’s called ‘I Hate My Life But Live My Friends’”

            Friends: cheer

            Everyone else: silent

            *unintentionally muted or randomly sttummed too hard acoustic guitar *

            IM SAD

            CAUSE IM SOMEWHERE I DIDNT GROW UP

            PARKING LOT

            I HATE FRIEND

            I LOVE FRIEND

            I WISH THE LEFT WING REVOLVED AROUND ME

            AND MY FRUSTRATION WITH MY DAD

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                Eh, we’ve got good not old dude punk bands, it’s very Japanese noise weebshit which to me seems like an excuse to bring Street Punk back but either call it UK 82 or add pedals and call it a day. It’s been boring as fuck lately.