I would argue that someone can’t sacrifice their future ability to buy just to lower the price on a single unit.

They’re stuck by the incentives of the situation just like everyone else.

We can’t expect anyone to act outside their own good when it comes to huge amounts of money. Especially in a capitalist society where the only thing that protects your quality of life is money. No one is going to step in when things go wrong except your decision to protect yourself and your family by making financially beneficial decisions.

And yeah, that sucks when you are the other major portion of our society who isn’t given the resources to grab that protection/money with both hands and not let go.

And on a more solution oriented note:

1. We need increased supply of dense housing appropriate for the average family, for the 20-30 yr olds who simply need a single bedroom, and for the retirees who need a small place to live after their children move out. Dense housing because driving an hour to where your job is makes sense to only a very small fraction of people and cities are continuing to attract people.
2. Increased pay for the average worker - probably requiring a decreased incentive to drive profits above all else for the large corporations that drive the majority of our market. (Thinking of examples like Walmart that pay minimum wage and then require their workers to receive government subsidies… meanwhile Walmart gets a profit. It’s a little circular.)
3. Kindness so we can all share our stories and think of solutions that change the structure and don’t require individuals to act outside their own interest. If we shut down conversation we’re no better than our silly two party system that seems to make enemies out of each other. Listen and sympathise and learn what each person has been able to build. Don’t be each other’s enemies. That’s letting the system we’re in win.

I’d love to buy your condos - but if we look at renting versus buying… It’s cheaper to rent versus buy until mortgage rates drop below 6%. We’ll just be sitting here adding to the mortgage payment pile until then.

A house is laughably out of reach.

My native French speaking mom will occasionally address my non-french speaking husband in French without realizing unless I tell her and even then she only knows because I’ve told her.

I’m going to put in a third vote for YNAB.

How do you feel it compares to YNAB?

Heehee yay YNAB!

Does your bank not allow you to download your transaction list as a CSV? I used to do this.

Agreed. I wish it was cheaper. Although now with YNAB Together my partner and I can share an account and my sister also agreed to have her budget. (I can technically peek as account manager but I’ve promised I won’t and we’re close enough that it’s not an issue.) But now it’s $30/each!

My partner and I just combined budgets rather than trying to split everything.

Could you try YNAB together (no extra expense to you and you can offer it free) and use YNAB to split things as mentioned in comment? Or if you don’t mind losing some visibility then making a broad “together” expense category to pull from/put into?

Also! Maybe try a different card? Plenty of good cards to try churning! But I agree - it’s frustrating when one doesn’t pull. My credit unions credit card does that.

I’m not seeing it yet - but YNAB is my current approach and I adore it.

I used to approach it in a project my income for the month and then assign that money into categories and into a savings pool. It was a good spreadsheet. I liked it.

But I find the envelope system that YNAB uses extremely powerful. You can set your categories (and it encourages you to remember expenses that only come up once in a while and budget for them on a monthly basis) and then you use the money you CURRENTLY have to fund them. You assign every dollar a job. Which means I can totally splurge on a fancy dinner… But it means I might be pulling money I assigned to my ski pass out (I sound ridiculously entitled, sorry… the blog posts they have give better perspectives if you are starting from high debt or low income). And I don’t want to pull that money because I’ve been setting it aside slowly for months… So I don’t splurge on drinks and dessert or I suggest street tacos or cooking at home for my friends instead.

I think #2 is unrealistic for a lot of people… The other points aren’t bad.

Heehee. At least with money I can know exactly how I’m spending it. I hate the effort it takes to track calories and the level of associated uncertainty.

Not necessarily. You can have a budget at any income level. It just might mean facing the fact that your expenses are higher than your income. No one says a budget can’t show you how much your going into debt instead of how much your saving. My partner was there through his college. It’s just depressing so you are less likely to do it. I don’t know if I would stick to it.

But I think knowing where your money is going and where it is coming from is a key step in motivating yourself to make a change… either to fight for other opportunities or to change spending habits. And it also gives you visibility into what differences it makes on a weekly or monthly or yearly basis.

Envelope style budgeting:)

I’m going to reply to your comment… But check out the philosophy of You Need A Budget. One of their keystones is roll with the punches. If you go on a spending spree, you just acknowledge it, cover those categories with money from somewhere else (or have it be on a credit card where it’ll warn you youre going into debt).

Jumpsuits make bathrooming more complicated. I absolutely love dresses for this reason 😁 and you can pair them with just about any style of shoes from sandals to sneakers to boots to strappy heels!

… what were your goals?

I used Libby. (Just go grab a local library card and see if you can dig up any old library cards from anywhere else you’ve lived… You can have multiple libraries linked.) Also great for audiobooks.

Thank you fellow human!