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we’re back to it? it never left, is there any actual functional difference between this and what the US has been doing since bush (and probably earlier)? they’re just being mask off with the cruelty of what deportation actually is, the lives theyve spent so hard on building up here is destroyed either way. again, obama deported over 400k in one year. the biggest difference here seems to be in its foreign policy implications
yeah holy hell man i knew this to be the case but liberals really do not care when it’s blue hitler doing it, obama did 400 fucking thousand one year apparently
do you know where i can find the stats on this?
so where were they being deported to before? i dont really understand the sudden resistance from mexico and columbia
is ICE actually increasing the amount of deportations? there’s all this hullabaloo now that the dang cheeto is doing it but hundreds of people have been deported every day since like, obama no?
wow, great insight 
(a story first broken by us on hexbear)
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wut. last presidency every other week he would suggest using nukes on someone, there’s no way this lasts
lmao yeah i remember that comment, good times
i know this is very random sorry for the necro but i stumbled upon this post while searching for something else and it made me cry because this was my late (birth) father’s favorite movie. it was for a different reason ofc but it’s making me cry that a (somewhat at least) socialist message resonated with his troubled soul. just wanted to say thanks, i guess
I’m skeptical it was on purpose
he did it fucking TWICE man WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
hmm, i wonder if this is why the did that semi-serious anti-woke immigration push earlier this year lol
Russia can’t continue the war at this pace forever. Their pseudo war economy peaked in the middle of last year and is on the downturn (like many predicted)
isnt this because the neoliberals who run the central bank just keep raising the interest rates?
even Bernie Sanders votes for him
parenti had him pegged so long ago, really not that surprising if you think about it, he’s an imperialist like the rest of them
who else would it even be? manchin and sinema already flipped to “independent”
to be worse, far worse, especially for the minorities and our comrades in America.
for minorities, yes, in the short term. however, how much exactly is still up in the air. For instance, I remain skeptical they will actually do mass deportations, i still dont understand where the personnel to do that will come from, and even besides that it will actually collapse the american economy. Agriculture and construction will collapse overnight if something like what the republicans are posturing towards goes through. Will capital (especially capital that is already aligned with the republicans to begin with) really let them do this? I doubt it. how bad it gets for trans people will likely depend on how willing blue states are willing to push back against the federal government, but it was always going to get way worse for trans people in red states. etc etc. additionally, dems are swinging further and further to the right every year, like 10 fucking democratic senators swung to help pass one of the recent demonic border bills to ensure it was filibuster proof, the (national, at least) dems will probably start calling to hunt trans people for sport within the next couple of decades (/hj).
as for “leftists”, again we are not a real threat. any increased repression would pretty much be like, on social media, maybe a couple of public arrests to scare people. if i’m wrong and most US communists on this site get put in camps i guess you can tell the ghost of my account i told you so lol
I still think appeasing to the Democrats while surviving on humiliation, secretly building the strength while delaying overt fascism, is a more viable strategy, but apparently people don’t like it because strategic alliance with the Democrats means you’re also supporting genocide and 100% behind the Democrats’ policies. It’s very black and white thinking.
CPUSA has tried this for like the last 70 years (and DSA for however long theyve been around, 40 or whatever?), and uh it really hasnt worked out very well for them. people dont see you as “making a strategic alliance” with the democrats, they (rightfully) see you as good little doggies doing your best to get people to vote for the democrats. honestly this is probably the worst thing ive ever seen you write on this site, this directly goes against the ideas of marx and lenin in how to participate in bourgeoisie democracy. im not even trying to be dogmatic, i think the past decades of CPUSA and other reformist/quasi reformist parties around the world failing to do jack shit proves that they had the right idea about refusing to tell your party members and any sympathizers to “strategically” vote for a bourgeoisie candidate. this even extends to countries with parliamentary democracy like in europe, where socialist parties think they can do a similar type of thing by forming a coalition, and when the libs make sure everything still fucking sucks you get drowned in their baggage and lose all the credibility with the working class that you spent so many years trying to cultivate, because the failures of those you entered into coalition with are directly seen as your failures.
the other glaring problem, even giving your idea more credit than i should, is that how are we supposed to “secretly” do this? despite my skepticism about a meaningful increase in state repression against “leftists”, the one thing more than anything i agree with is that the state maintains 100% attention to any and all anticapitalist groups within the US (and around the globe, if able), especially marxist groups. How can we actually “secretly” grow our power with the eye of sauron making sure it always has us in its field of view? I also see you acknowledge that the democrats are also fascists, and that the republicans are only “overt” fascists. why in the fucking world would any right minded communist anywhere in the world do anything to help fascists gain/keep power, even if they put on a nice mask and the other option does not? the CIA and FBI will tireless work to destroy us all the same, and all it stands to gain us is by associating us with the nicer fascists’ actions. hell, not to advocate for accelerationism*, but the maskless fascists will at least trick less of the most marginalized members of society who have some of the most revolutionary potential!!!
But more than that, Trump is unstable. Biden is evil, sure, but there is certainty in his policies. You cannot even try to guess what Trump is trying to do - annex Greenland? Canada? Are those even serious proposals? When you cannot read your opponent’s mind, or when rationality has been thrown out of window, the world becomes more unstable. The likelihood of a global war exponentially increases because countries can no longer predict a stable course or understand what their opponent wants.
my argument is that the certainty in biden makes everyone ( i.e. american, european, chinese, other third world, etc. socialists) too complacent. i dont think it’s any coincidence that the liberal faction in the cpc has made at least a bit of resurgence during biden’s presidency. unfortunately this also seems like advocating for accelerationism, (and from a quick search isnt the actual quote but encapsulates what i am trying to say)" as mao supposedly (almost certainly did not say) said: “Everything under heaven is in utter chaos; the situation is excellent.” Not advocating for communists to do what they can to stir up the situation; instead, i am trying to say that we should not fear the chaos, and instead welcome and be excited for the chaos when it arises.
How I (and hopefully others?) separate myself from the accelerationists: the accerlerationists from my impression do the opposite of your strategy. they advocate for actively helping (or at least, something close to that) someone chaotic and more-likely-person-to-harm-the-empire like trump, in the hopes that he brings the conditions necessary for a revolution. I think the problem with this approach is two-fold: it in a way it demands the most marginalized people in society to sacrifice themselves to bring down the empire, which is both morally and strategically terrible! why should us (especially privileged) anticapitalists demand that the already most marginalized among society sacrifice themselves to ensure the downfall of the amerikkkan empire? what good would it do to communists to sacrifice some/all of the most revolutionary populations in the world, just to drag down the empire (to some unknown degree), while we wait an unknown number of years for this process to complete (surely a century of sacrificing minorities should be enough to bring communism, right!!! /j)
but then, why not go with your idea? ensure the worst of the fascists (i.e. in america, the republicans) cant win. The problem with it, in my view, is this is where we communists must do everything in our power to convince that any reprieve is temporary, in your idea. but, how convincing is this, really? “put these people into power. oh but actually they will totally betray you, 8 years from now”. do you actually expect that to be convincing? do you expect people to remember in 8 years? meaning, 8 years pass, the communists told people they need to support the dems (or insert less mean face of capital) but that they will eventually betray them. do you think it would be unreasonable to expect that the people that we communists supported just 8/x years ago will never give them the same concessions that they just tasted? should we expect people to sacrifice (relatively, based on our fucking word!!!) recent peace for the guarantee of extremely hard times that will result in the best outcome for them and their children?
the only option, as marx and lenin said, is to detach yourself from the bourgousie parties and prepare yourself to weather the storm. hopefully you have a decade or 2 to prepare yourself with the nicer fascists, but you should put no hope in that (and in fact, should prepare as if adolf hitler himeslf will take control of your country in the next election, whether that be 4 years from now or 1 month). we need to openly, brazenly, gather as much strength as we can, so that we can gather it as quickly as possible. in order to prepare for the worst bourgeoisie repression imaginable, while remaining principled to avoid any unnecessary bleed off of the most revolutionary members of the working class (racicalized, sexualized, etc.), and just generally keeping ourselves unattached from the nicer faces of fascism to keep ourselves from being attached to any form of fascism.
yes im well aware but xhs randomly does bits like this too and i can never tell when it’s a bit, like this kind of comment was just like ones made on the simulatedliberalism account if you remember that account
Mussolini and Hitler crushed very strong militant communist movements back then
they’re not even totally relevant or necessary to point to as an example, the american communist movement in the 20th century perhaps wasnt as militant (although due to america being what it is, probably still decently armed) and the 4th reich crushed it all the same during the red scares, although it was in an even stronger position so it was just able to do it in a cleaner way (i.e. mass life imprisonment and more precise assassinations)
the panic is definitely there, i’ve seen more than one story about potential harvests rotting in the fields because of undocumented workers not showing up out of fear, but this does in part seem to me almost entirely driven by rhetoric and news media hyperfocusing on it. i guess my point is that the US was pretty much already deporting as many people as it could. I suppose the EO that’s trying to overturn the 14th amendment may have something to do with it as well