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  • Agreed. It may be someone spouting propaganda and ultimately a stupid point in context, but it’s still comment with the structure of an argument rather than a plain statement. Draft and not allowing certain demographics to leave are topics worth debating, even if it seems obviously acceptable in this kind of defensive existential situation.

    If we want this to be a forum for healthy discussion and debate, it should be moderated in a way that is hopeful for that ideal rather than so fearful of bad actors that it undermines the ideal outright. But I’m not the moderator, maybe they just want a safe space for pro-Ukraine content, which people are in their right to create.



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    18 days ago

    Why do I have to care about sports in order to care about trans folks who care about sports?

    Do I have to care about every last hobby or fandom before I can weigh in on the justice of whether black people or gay people or poor people should be allowed to participate?


  • Current best practice AFAIK is exactly this. Gender care includes psychiatric/mental health, and occupational (ish) therapy that leads up to surgery after a lot of care. Gender dysphoria, like many things has an internal and external layer where society sets expectations and acts on us based on our gender expression in ways that can be quite brutal. Some folks may end up enby or smth or find something acceptable without surgery, which has its downsides. However none of this should preclude surgery as an option, as evidence has shown it is a highly effective treatment in our current context.

    This is the biomedical view that focuses on dysfunction and suffering of the individual and addressing that dysfunction. There is a more philosophical/existential view worth understanding to balance the biomedical view. It is one that acknowledges that we are who we are and we develop the way we develop. If we are to flourish as humans and as a society, it must be through compassion for each others’ experiences as human subjects struggling to figure ourselves and each other out. Imposing one’s worldview on others by force is to treat humans as objects through manipulation. That’s mistaken and harmful. Compassion doesn’t mean you don’t stand up to bullies or you don’t resist injustice or you don’t fight back in self defense. It means you’re always seeking to humanize rather than dominate. This can mean supporting trans folks in accessing care or it can mean helping them to consider all their options.


  • That does not make sense. What does “harm” mean to you? Less good is not “potential harm”. To put it another way, let’s assume you and I are completely independent and I have to moral responsibility to give you money. If I chose to not give you any money, you would not be harmed. If I gifted you $100, you would not be harmed. If I gifted you $20 you would not be harmed because I did not gift you $100.



  • Heh it’s a fun “gotcha” kind of modification. Alas, it misunderstands the thought experiment. They’re not changing the emotional valence. They are removing a fundamental aspect of a dilemma: harm. One of the purposes of the trolley problem is to provoke the thinker into questioning what they believe about moral responsibility and (in)action.