Holy shit… How can you rightly identify that the US military (and the US government’s use of said military) is evil, and that killing people for their ideas just spreads those ideas, but then somehow come to the conclusion that public health mandates during a pandemic are unconstitutional and “billionaires in this country got rich by actually serving their fellow man”?

Fucking hell, the propaganda machines are in overdrive.

Appreciate a veteran telling kids not to join the military. (Assuming this was written by an actual veteran, and isn’t just fictional propaganda.)

The rest is idiotic corpo bootlicking unrelated to the topic.

I get the hate for those movies, but I honestly enjoyed them all.

They are what got me to watch TOS, finally. Then I did a full watch through of the series. They were great for revitalizing the fan base and making new fans.

I honestly love having the movies as a different universe/timeline. Saves us from tone whiplash, like Shakespeare TNG Picard vs Rambo Movie Picard.

That, or she should be named “Mary” instead, I guess.

At this point I can only understand it if I know who’s saying it.

That is the most frustrating thing about discussion these days. Everyone using the same words but speaking an entirely different language.

When you don’t agree on the definitions of words anymore, or you don’t hold yourself to using them in good faith, then you take discussion off the table. You’re no longer debating; now you are just arguing. It’s one step away from violence.

As disappointing as it is to see it end, 5 seasons is a decent run, and I’d rather it end before they “jump the shark” or just fizzle out.

Vulcans.

As a regularly stoic person (maybe on the autism spectrum), I often struggle to show appropriate emotion. Or, at least, it is exhausting.

Having a conversation with a Vulcan would be a breath of fresh air.

Prediction: Starbucks resolves the issue by raising all “milk” product prices to match the most expensive option.

Yeah, that’s pretty true.

They almost certainly picked it just for the joke.

queer.af = Queer AF = Queer as fuck!

It’s like how popular the TLD of Guernsey (.gg) is with gaming websites.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t even realize what country code the TLD was when they registered it.

I guess I assumed a sort of corollary.

Starfleet personnel ends up back in time on a Starfleet vessel. We both serve the same organization. My duty is to protect the timeline I come from. Your duty seems, implicitly, to aid a fellow Starfleet officer in their mission (to protect the aforementioned timeline).

It seems like Starfleet should have a dedicated Temporal Security crew on every starship and starbase for such an occasion. You find a supposed time traveler, you immediately call this team. They sequester the intruder and go through a careful interview to verify their claim as cleanly as possible, then render what aid is needed to secure the timeline and get them home (or, barring that possibility, get them somewhere isolated where they can’t contaminate the timeline). Then, maybe memory wipe the Temporal Security team (and possibly anyone else who interacted with the traveler). On the flipside, if you end up back in time, it’s expected you should immediately attempt to contact the local Temporal Security crew.

Sure, but what about random crewmen, like in my example? Are they expected to make such a decision?

I will never understand how someone reconciles conservative politics with being a Star Trek fan. The cognitive dissonance is astounding.

It should have an option to add an event to your calendar.

I personally liked Ruon Tarka. He felt like a good foil for our protagonists. Sympathetic, believable, but still squarely in the wrong. I did not, however, believe Book siding with him for so long.

But I agree the coolest parts of S4 were at the end, trying to actually learn about the 10-C for first contact.

All the more sad.

I honestly would love to see a “Utopia-Realized Level Federation” series, even a limited run, where all the plots are philosophical, artistic, interpersonal, or scientific.

Oh, nice. I’m glad we aren’t ending with another stress-fest. End on a more fun note.

That’s fair, and I think Starfleet HQ fits that bill. But I think (at least in my opinion of architecture as an art form, which I think starship design falls under, since people live and work there), I’d be frustrated to work on a Saturn class if that big hole did nothing, and made navigating between any two places on the ship more of a pain. That said, with personal transporters, maybe it’s not an issue (assuming this ship isn’t near any action that could make personal transporters inoperable). Maybe it would work well as a sort of diplomatic vessel, where having all these rooms with windows facing into the ring (like a giant round table) could be artistically conducive to discussion. Maybe they have a bunch of huge holo emitters in the ring, and they use it to project the current speaker, or just cool holo-art when not in session.

I’ve read through two threads recently on DIS, and I have found nobody talking about S4. Did everyone just give up at S3? Did we all forget about “growing the beard” and how long it can take a show to get it’s legs?

S4 is my favorite season of DIS. Species 10-C was some of the coolest new sci-fi for Star Trek in a while. The overarching plot was interesting in that it had high stakes, but it didn’t feel oppressive like other seasons. It still had a sense of hope and optimism. A lot of the characters got to expand their roles and relationships, feeling more like an ensemble.

I know there was some stuff that didn’t hit well in that season, but I can’t recall the details off hand (like I can for S1-S3). In my memory, the good outweighed the bad.

I am hopeful that S5 meets at least that mark, and hopefully glides into a graceful ending for the show. If I had my wish, S5 would make a switch to a more episodic style (rather than a big season-long central plot).

I saw a lot of hate for the Saturn class, and the arguments made sense assuming classic Starfleet designs and concepts.

I, however, love it because it begs the question: why? What is that for? And my mind jumps to all sorts of cool technobabble uses for such a weird ship design.

Some weird portal experiment? Evacuation ship made to maximize shuttle bay access? A specialized science ship designed with tons of inward-facing sensors? The mind boggles with possibilities.

The people who hated in it see wasted space. I see an unopened techno-mystery-box.

It’s weird, he doesn’t really look like a Tellarite, but he doesn’t really look like a Talaxian, either.

I will concede he looks more like a Talaxian than a Tellarite, but still, very different.