stolen from linux memes at Deltachat
Isn’t archwiki one of the most comprehended wikis for Linux distros out there? If anything, the arch-wiki (to me) has often too many answers for the same problem than the other way around.
I run Debian and I regularly look at the Arch wiki.
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I switched like ten years ago because I wanted to learn the details, but in all honesty I still feel like I barely understand anything. Not sure how normal this is, maybe I’m unusually dumb, but I feel like what I’ve really learned is how to troubleshoot and solve issues by reading documentation and tinkering, rather than understanding what I’m actually doing. I’ve had a stable system for years but I kind of feel like if a typical arch forum poster looked my system configuration for five minutes they’d be like wtf are you doing.
Is actually great since it forces you to learn which saves you much more time in the long run.
But most people can’t see past their nose.
couldve stopped at the first sentence, but had to keep with the stereotype i guess ;)
Most people want a functional OS, they don’t care about the benefits of NetworkManager over its competition. Figuring out every possible configuration setting and finding the right combination to get everything working as intended takes forever.
Some people are into that, and power to them, but most people aren’t.
Weird shot at the Arch wiki, which is truly great. I turn to it regularly despite not using Arch.
Arch user here.
My recommendation to noobies is always Linux Mint even though I don’t use it.
I use Arch, btw.
Yeah I think Arch is fine, but I’d never recommend it to a new Linux user.
Hey, you’re on the wrong Lemmy instance. :P
I use both, but Mint is strictly better if you want a no-fuss system that just works and will continue to do so
Indeed, besides most linux distributions are fairly equally lightweight and can be customized. I tried 4-5 distros this past January (Arch being one) when I got my new gaming laptop and they all booted in ~9.5 sec for example, and perform equally well in general, they had fairly similar RAM load with the same desktop environment.
Arch is about managing the system as a hobby, which is fine.
One problem here is that new users install Endeavour/Garuda but don’t know how to manage updates safely about pacnew/pacsave/etc. So the system might slowly “rot” without them knowing about it because new components use old configs, etc…
I also recommend Mint to new users. I don’t use Mint, nor do I use Arch.
Tbf I don’t think many people know about pacdiff. The way I found out about it was by looking up a warning about pacnew/pacsave during an upgrade, because I was bored. Very random.
I use Ubuntu. It generally tends to be boring stable, which is kinda what I want out of my OS these days. I can still customize it, and even break it if I really get bored, but it’s nice to have things just work for the most part.
“Wiki do not have answer” that’s why the wiki is also used by non-arch users ?
Ay this is a funny meme and all but insulting the best linux documentation available was unnecessary
yep
My first ever distro was Arch, over a decade ago.
I just consider it my trial by fire, everything has been smooth sailing since because anything else is easier!
I don’t get the hate arch gets - it’s the perfect distro if you want to choose what programs you want to use, it’s not meant to be an out of the box experience. Been using it for 3 years, and sure it might take me a couple of hours to set up initially, but after that I don’t really have to do anything.
Arch wasn’t my first distro but it was my first daily driver. Found it easier than both mint and Ubuntu personally.
I always say Ubuntu, to make the haters snap
Me : New to Ubuntu . wanted to know what’s the deal with arch. Switch to arch. 😵. Welp
heres the thing: as a decade+ software dev, I never want to even think about my distro.
I just want Linux terminal style commands, and Linux style ssh shit to just work in the most middle of the road way as possible. I’m trying to get a job done, not build a personality.
If the arch wiki doesn’t have the answer, I just give up
Basically, most of the points there fall into some of 3 categories:
- Your hardware is crap:
- WiFi not working;
- Nvidia failed;
- You ability to read/follow simple instructions is crap:
- WiFi not working;
- Messed up installation;
- Nvidia failed;
- No answer in the wiki;
- Lies/outdated:
- Updater broke system;
- Troubleshoot everything;
- No answer in the wiki;
This is more or less my experience with it. My noob-ass just can’t handle even EndeavorOS.
What problems did you run into?
I will always recommend Debian or Debian based distros to anyone new to Linux. They’ll find their way to arch eventually
Arch btw
