Somehow paying for Netflix is fine but god forbid I want to watch a 10 hour loop of the DS9 intro without ads.
I think most people are angry with YouTube premium because it’s a service that doesn’t give you anything. It’s a service where they stop annoying you. But it doesn’t unlock anything new that you didn’t have before, doesn’t give you access to content or data you don’t have access to, it doesn’t improve the service. It just removes the annoyances they put there deliberately. So people are a little angry about it
It’s a protection racket, for your attention and time.
The fact that they made it worse so they could lock what we had behind a paywall is what permanently killed YouTube for me. I will bend over backwards to make sure they never receive a penny at this point. They could have added or improved features but they just made everything shitty instead lol screw them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_IaVMsCbf8
It’s just a little advertisment
Come to Quarks, Quarks is fun, Don’t walk Run!
Yeah I need youtube premium in order to enable background play on the official app. This is ridiculous, especially on a mobile operating system that made fun of the competition because it didnt have true multitasking. Ever since then it’s kinda been it for me. Like I cant multitask on my computer device because you want me to pay a subscription? No thanks.
It’s a protection racket, for your attention and time.
It is, but it is only between the free and paid versions. I can’t expect a service to exist for my use without some form of compensation. I’d rather pay with money than time.
it doesn’t improve the service.
Doesn’t it do exactly that? It removes the ads whoch makes it way better.
But it doesn’t unlock anything new that you didn’t have before
It does give you access to higher quality streaming though, offline play, background play, video queue, picture in picture and youtube music premium. Do you even know what you are talking about?
Yes I do, thank you for asking.
You’d have a much stronger point if all the following were free: bandwidth, server farms, developers, support staff.
Since they aren’t, something needs to pay for those. I’m paying to not see that something.
There was some original content, there is offline play, ad removal, however they should allow premium to skip sponsor ads too if you ask me.
I thought it was a decent deal for $15/mo for family of 3 using it for music and yt. $23 is pushing it.
It includes youtube music. And creators you watch get more money than if you watched using the ad supported version.
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You also get to play video with a screen off on mobile
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You also get to download for offline viewing
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You also support the creators of the videos, not just google.
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AND FFS YOU DONT GET ADS.
Using adblock isnt some innate human right. They are well within their rights to block adblock.
You get almost the whole worlds information for free in video form. You can be entertained or use it as a teaching tool. It is the best place at this point for product demos and reviews. It is a crazy wealth of information and infrastructure that everyone takes advantage of and somehow just expect to be free. If Google cancells it because it is not profitable, i would bet the efficiency of the entire human race takes a significant nose dive. It also probably runs one of the highest sets of data storage and encoding on the planet.
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Somehow paying for Netflix is fine
I was saying paying for Netflix is not fineIs praying for netflix fine?
Only praying for it to die
how do we have every emote and I can never find any of them
And here I am, getting the same thing and paying nothing because I’ve got uBlock Origin.
Since youtube has been starting to wage war against adblock I decided to try out using freetube and have been enjoying it. It does have some limitations but since its not tied to the algorithm it reminds me of how I used to have to browse youtube in the older days. Also I feel like the up-next option is way more valuable than it is with the algorithm. Instead of being based off of what I watch its like the old method so it might recommend more vids from the creator or channels like the creator.
Instead of stuff that Ive already watched or am already subscribed to, or that one weird thing the algorithm is pushing for no reason that I keep ignoring but it keeps shoving at me.
Discovery requires a little more creativity with searching and for some categories this can get broad, but the result is finding more teeny tiny creators as well which is neat.
I was getting blocked for having uBlock Origin, but how I solved that was to purge the filter lists in the settings and re-download them. Now I can watch again.
Oh yeah that does work as well, but I decided to give the open source front end a try as well and enjoyed the experience enough to keep at it.
There’s always one.
I also have No ads, because I use NewPipe. There I can watch all Videos from YouTube, cccBerlin, pearTube and it is also possible to Listen to Music from Bandcamp and Soundcloud.
YMusic
Honestly not worth the trouble on mobile
Unless you’re on an iPhone, setting up Revanced takes less than 10 minutes and very rarely breaks anything. If you want to support your YouTube creators, then sure pay for premium, but it baffles me how someone could have the technical prowess to set up a Lemmy account, but then balk at something like this. If anything, mobile might be one of the last frontiers now that they’re starting a war against adblock.
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I use adblock on Firefox on my phone. Used to be fun to jailbreak and install my own apps and stuff, just getting lazier as I age I think
Somehow paying for Netflix is fine
is it tho? is it?
Only I can have double standards.
paying for netflix isn’t fine either
Meanwhile I’m over here like:
That scene when he struts up to the guys naked and full of attitude in Chernobyl should have won him an emmy. Love this actor!
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Not the same guy. That was Alex Ferns. This is Michael Hough.
Tbh, I lose some amount of respect for anyone who mentions they pay for media that is easily accessed through piracy, netflix included
The same can be said even more so about people that refuse to pay for services they use.
It’s based, actually. So is stealing from businesses. In fact, if piracy really was the same as stealing, I’d definitely make a point of pirating more often
edit: looked at your profile and you’re
incarnate, nevermindWhat are you supposed to be? Cringe incarnet?
piracy is good and fun and based
shilling for the privatization of media, or whatever you’re attempting to do, is weird and the opposite of based
Calling out deadbeats isn’t “shilling”
Projection detected.
What did I say was cringe?
shut the fuck up paypig
Don’t worry about it, now let’s get that snout back in the trough
You sure got me there buddy, I’m so owned!!
It’s so funny how much you lemmitors whine about piracy, considering even Reddit, the biggest corporate bootlicker site, allows piracy talk.
Good god kid you need to leave the house and touch some grass. Your internet circlejerk is giving you brain rot.
Lmao look at this fucking bootlicker
“Im a loser Looke at meeeE!”
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Use Newpipe like a true comrade.
YouTube without ads on Android, and you can run it in the background with/without the screen off.
Newpipe gang rise up
Brand new: https://grayjay.app/
Has downloads, dislikes, Youtube, Odysee, Rumble, Twitch, Kick, and more plugins, no ads, can cast to devices, offline subscriptions and was paid for by Louis Rossman. Out for a week now. Loving it so far. Just needs Sponsorblock and it will replace Newpipe+Sponsorblock for me. It’s open source but paid software.
We offer a way to pay for the app once. The app will function identically without paying.
You can even use it if you’re NOT filthy commie scum!
Hear me out: ublock origin on your computer and revanced manager on your phone.
And for my old smart TV? Or when I’m at work?
I use iPhone. And I like downloading videos way way way too much. UBlock origin is goated tho.
And I don’t want ads when I cast to my tv.
https://github.com/qnblackcat/uYouPlus/wiki/Installation
You can sideload an adblocking YouTube app on iOS
Or use a PiHole for your entire network.
That is very useful information. Thanks!
What are the risks of installing a third party App Store like this. I notice it was called TrollStore.
Relatively low risk, these are open-source projects with fairly significant userbases of technical users who can and do call out troubling code if it’s present.
While you are doing so at your own risk, sideloading isn’t inherently risky. It’s far safer than jailbreaking, for sure. The risk is not really with the store, but with the apps you download from it. I recommend only downloading more popular and trusted apps with public code and some community oversight.
PiHole can block YouTube ads? Specifically on iOS?? Didn’t think DNS blocking could accomplish this and an app like Magic Lasso was required?
I use NextDNS and it cannot block iOS YouTube ads.
Honestly not entirely sure about iOS. I use a PiHole and several other adblocking solutions, but don’t personally use any apple devices. Family members with iOS devices have repeatedly commented that they are confused and delighted that they never see ads at my house, though.
I subscribe to YouTube Music and have since the Play days (R.I.P.). Watching videos without ads is just a perk.
This is basically my stance. Its also one of a very few subs I use, I don’t really care to watch streaming services or to pay for the slightly (maybe?) better other music streaming services.
I still have Premium but could never accept YT music as a former Play user. Why did they end the best music streaming service for this unusable trash?
Spotify is still worse than Play was, but at least it’s good at recommending music. YT music is worse in every regard. Except for smart watch integration maybe.
Play was the best, especially in the early days with the professionally curated (by humans) play lists. I discovered so much new music. AI generated playlists are terrible.
I just find the cost of Premium to be too high.
Here in Sweden it costs about 120SEK/month, that is far too much, I’d happily pay 60-70SEK/month, that would be worth it to me.
And would still give rhem more money than me not watching ads
Only service where I’ve done the region thing. Paying 15 kr a month because I signed up through Argentina.
Is that much more than Spotify in Sweden?
No idea, I have never used Spotify
I know this is a silly meme but my issue with not wanting to pay for youtube is 3 fold.
1.Theyre a monopoly. Google bought out the plucky streaming service on the rise(and honestly if it wasnt google it would have been someone else) and then continued to build up momentum and squash the competition. There is no competition. Daily motion and vimeo and peertube exist, but they dont really compete with youtube anymore.
Google can complain all they want about how it’s expensive to host 4k videos from anyone who wants to upload and how all the global traffic makes their service unprofitable but given theyre a giant corporation, if it didnt bring them value they wouldnt be doing it and if it is a hole theyre putting money into then it’s an hole they dug for themselves.
2.Google sucks at dealing with their creators. The lifeblood of the site is that it is the default platform for video content creators because its so big. Unjustified DCMA takedowns which ruin a persons livelihood and are difficult to appeal, their demonetization and essentially delisting from the algorithm of nsfw videos(which can happen if a key word is detected or a specific type of image, that recent issue with the big youtuber doxing another and getting a slap on the wrist, and the changes made to algorithms that hurt creators and shape content.
Like how the comedy sketches and animators that were prevalent in the early days got squeezed out because the algorithm favored longer videos and a steadier stream of content. Or a case where a youtuber got his own song DCMA’d because another artist remixed his music. And thats not even getting into the poor compensation from ads that means creators need to use sites like patreon to get by. “Oh but if you pay premium your views count more” wow how nice of one of the biggest most valuable companies on earth.
They also have no easy way for even decent sized creators with millions of subs to appeal or get a hold of them, let alone one in the 100s of thousdands or tens of thousands mark. All ai reviewed and ai resolved.
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The algorithm debacle. Its fickle tweaks have indirect impacts on creators and at worst it has been known to feed into conspiracy theories and red pill people into extremist pipelines and it took google way too long to address it. Even when it works well it can still push a lot of the same content. But its arbitrary nature an be a windfall on some seasons for one type of creator and tank another.
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Honestly even if all else failed and adblock stopped working I would probably just watch the ads. It’s like a 15 second clip in the beginning if you skip and a minute worth of ad 10 or 15 minutes later. Im not gunna say I love it but do you people not remember what watching tv was like or reading magazines, or have you ever had a bus drive by you? I can live with the minor amount of mostly skipable ads I’d get an hour especially if it means Im not paying.
2.Google sucks at dealing with their creators. The lifeblood of the site is that it is the default platform for video content creators because its so big. Unjustified DCMA takedowns which ruin a persons livelihood and are difficult to appeal, their demonetization and essentially delisting from the algorithm of nsfw videos(which can happen if a key word is detected or a specific type of image, that recent issue with the big youtuber doxing another and getting a slap on the wrist, and the changes made to algorithms that hurt creators and shape content.
Well said. It’s so hypocritical of Google to say “support our creators” when they do such a trash job of it already. Google makes hundreds of billions of dollars per year! If they cared so much about the creators, they could share more of their obscene earnings with them. Why should it be people’s responsibility?!? And of course, all the things that you mentioned as well that constantly screw them over too.
It’s just shameless hypocrisy. They have no moral high ground here whatsoever.
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I pay for it so my kids’ accounts don’t have ads. They’re too young to sort out all the edge cases that aggressive ad blocking generates and for a bonus we get youtube music.
You think that’s bad? Mention you use a HP printer sometime. I dare you to try it.
Well owning a HP inkjet is an objectively stupid thing to do.
Thanks for proving my point!
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Eh, HP has always worked fine for us. I have two sitting here, actually - one is an all-in-one from ~2009 that we printed our wedding programs on when it was new, and it still works fine, but ink is getting harder to find for it, and we had a scare with the irreplaceable print head a few years ago (I got it working, using HP’s “try this if you’re out of options, but it’s unlikely to work” directions, but we realized it was probably time to consider replacing it).
The other is a few years old and is one of the ones with the subscription service. We’ve had a good experience with it, and I spend less on ink than I did with the old one, but that upsets a LOT of people.
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First, it’s nice to get a reasonable response to my comment. Most of the responses about HP printers are people foaming at the mouth. Even a few here, in a thread meant to be funny, generated some of that.
Yeah, I might go with a laser next time. I’ve read that Brother makes a pretty good laser printer, and I see color models are like $250, which isn’t bad. We’ll see. No major rush right now. I would miss the flatbed scanner; I do use that (maybe as much as the printer) for random things.
Oh…haha…I just went to Brother’s site to look at one, and oh look, there’s a toner subscription service!
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No way, Only Brushes and paint for me. Of course I steal it cause why should I pay for it?
I use an HP inkjet with original cartridges
😭
Using an HP printer is like playing Russian Roulette with a ton of loaded bullets. I say this as someone with multiple HP printers.
Those who pay are the problem on all platforms. 🏴☠️
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