Looking to see if I am welcom on kbin to express the viewpoint that it is not possible to be “trans.”
I assert that it is not possible to transition and that gender is the same as sex.
Is this an acceptable viewpoint on kbin, or will I be banned for expressing this?
Not looking to start a fight, just want to know if such speech is tolerated here.
“I’m not looking for a fight, but I am going to say this thing that invalidates the reality of an entire class of people.”
No. That’s not an “acceptable viewpoint”. Tolerance of the intolerant is intolerable.
But that said, if you spend most of your time here talking about normal topics and stay off the anti-trans bullshit, you won’t be banned.
OP said in another thread that they’ve been banned 10 times from Reddit for being “able to articulate various logical arguments against transgenderism”. 🙄
OP sounds fucking exhausting to be around
Imagine being so terminally online that you not only keep track of exactly how many times you’ve been banned on Reddit and why, but also fail to develop any self awareness.
Let me preface this by saying that I disagree with your viewpoint in its entirety, and that I am not an admin nor an instance moderator on Kbin.
Here’s the thing. If your intention is to come into Kbin, or Lemmy, or any other space here, and start spouting your viewpoint anywhere and everywhere - for example, in Pro-Trans spaces, or in spaces that have nothing to do with gender, you can expect some heavy pushback, including (likely) removal from those spaces. If your intention is to come in here and find or create a community that is conducive to posting about your viewpoint, you probably won’t really have much trouble.
You sound like someone who is looking to make trouble, though, which is the only reason I can see for you to have posted this in this particular manner. If that’s your intention, I think I can safely say, on behalf of the Lemmy / Kbin community, fuck right off. There’s plenty of Lemmy instances that you can join that won’t kick you out for this viewpoint, so probably go find one of those.
Afaik, it isn’t expressly forbidden. But you aren’t going to have much luck spouting that kind of inaccurate view. I mean, I’m having trouble not poking at the egregiously misused words in there, and I’m fairly chill about letting people figure things out on their own.
So, I don’t think you’ll find the viewpoint tolerated by fellow users, regardless of what any official stance is
There’s a fine line between “free speech” and “hate speech”. Doing hate speech is not free speech. In my experience, it’s usually americans who don’t understand this.
Americans have fetishised the concept of free speech to a remarkable degree. Virtually no other country permits such a toxic policy.
It all stems from a fundamental misunderstanding (or intentional ignorance, I imagine, in many cases) of what ‘free speech’ really means in the US constitution. All it means is that you can speak out against the government without being jailed for your views. It definitely does not mean that people can say whatever they want without consequences, even though that’s what people who hold particularly abhorrent views would like everyone to believe.
Europeans and being casually xenophobic with zero prompting. Really wish that could be more unexpected post-reddit.
- Before joining an instance you can go to their /terms page and see if they will tolerate you because you’re just making stuff up and your ignorance will hurt and endanger people. Most KBIN and Lemmy servers will, fortunately, not willingly host you because of this.
- I won’t tolerate you, so don’t join my instance. So, 1 down.
Freedom of speech doesn’t mean you are allowed to say anything you want, everywhere you want without consequences. It just means you won’t be jailed for your opinions. Even if you get banned you can join an instance that allows it. Probably would be one that is de-federated by virtually everyone though.
Is this an acceptable viewpoint
No. Go away.
If that kind of free speech is allowed, I absolutely pray that I’m also allowed to mock you incessantly for it. Conservatives check in like “Hey am I allowed to be intolerant here? I just wanna be sure you won’t ban me for spouting hate.”
Freedom of speech isn’t freedom from consequences. And your right to say what you want doesn’t mean people will want to listen to it, nor that they shouldn’t express their disapproval by whatever means they wish.
Try it and find out. If you get banned, start your own instance. People will be free to join you, ignore you, and/or defederate you as they see fit.
you can spout incorrect shit, but you’ll probably be banned. Freedom of speech and freedom of association go hand in hand, and admins here will deplatform you much the same way a KKK member at a comedy club will be shown the door.
People’s existence is not the subject of debate. Bugger off, troll.
I guess time will tell, but I’d question why you need to assert this? What difference does it make whether people want to consider their gender fluid or not?
Just wanna make sure they’re allowed to invalidate other people’s existences because of their own world view. #JustConservativeThings
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Good thing you don’t determine what’s reality and what isn’t with your personal assertions then, as you’re not very good at it.
On whether you’ll be banned, hopefully. Hate speech is not protected speech.
I’m sure you’ll be able to find a kbin instance that will tolerate and indeed celebrate whatever views you hold - if not, you can simply start a new instance yourself.
The extent to which other instances will federate with it is a differet question.
