• Infamousblt [any]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    “And in response we will send 100 billion in lethal aid directly to Israel.”

    Israelis are doing a genocide in Gaza right now and the whole western world will celebrate it at worst and tut about it at best. Disgusting

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      Yes, they are doing a genocide.

      I’m not sure what other options are available at this point though.

      Hamas is extremist to the point where they would be doing a genocide as well if they were in the position to do so.

      People say separate the Hamas from the people, but that’s really hard when the members of Hamas are of the people and have the support of a good percentage of them.

      If Israel invades on foot and Hamas is threatened they can simply fade back into the population and wait to try again. And the general population will support them in doing so.

      The creation of the state of Israel was a mistake and the rise of Hamas is the direct result of decades of apartheid practiced against the Palestinians by the Israeli state.

      … But as the issue stands today, I can’t blame Israel in taking extreme action to end the conflict that’s dragged on for nearly a century now.

      There is no reasonable path to peace. A two state solution would end with the states at war anyway as both states have extreamists who want to genocide the other in government positions.

      And there is no where that would accept the Gaza population as refugees even if you could get them to leave.

      So what’s left?

      • FALGSConaut [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        1 year ago

        Really? Your stance is “decolonization sounds complicated, let’s just let Israel genocide millions of people”? As other posters have said, send any dual citizens back to their country of origin, remove settlers from Palestinian land, end the siege of gaza, take down the wall and machine guns, prosecute IDF war criminals, and dissolve the criminal entity that is Israel. Will it be bloodless and free of violence? Of course not, I’m not naive, but the genocide of Palestinians will be much more bloody than any decolonization process

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        1 year ago

        Hamas is extremist to the point where they would be doing a genocide as well if they were in the position to do so.

        The exact same nonsense was said about the end of apartheid in South Africa. That the extremist communist party and ANC would genocide white people. It never happened. This is literally a talking point from ex apartheid South African president PW Botha he said the same nonsense:

        “I am not prepared to lead white South Africans and other minority groups on a road to abdication and suicide,”

          • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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            1 year ago

            I don’t think most people in South Africa desire that or even want that. White people are a tiny minority in South Africa, 7% of the population, if the majority of the country wanted white people gone, it would’ve happened already. People just wanted apartheid to end and historic inequalities to be dealt with. The first already happened, the second is happening at a snails pace, if it’s even happening at all in some cases.

      • Dolores [love/loves]@hexbear.net
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        1 year ago

        can’t blame Israel

        i most certainly can. the instigator of violence always has the option to not continue and to make reparations. israelis are only targets for violence so long as they make life intolerable for palestinians.