You can’t play the both sides card here when it is documented that the Israelis are the settler colonial regime mass genociding Palestinians since they arrived. Or do you say “both sides were bad” when the Europeans genocided native Americans? You would probably say “They were funded by tribal zealots” too. That is an imperialist mentality.
That too is a bit of revisionist history and if you extend the timeline back a bit you’ll see both parties have semi-legitimate claims to the area (hell, Israelis have been there for a thousand years before Palestine ever existed and before Islam came into existence around ~600ad) and both are religious nuts hellbent on destroying one another. I just feel bad for the innocent civilians stuck between two genocidal, warring factions of religious fanatics. Anyone who tries to claim one side here is more legitimate than the other or is more depraved than the other is just ignoring reality. Obviously Palestine is the “underdog” here but it doesn’t mean they aren’t committing war crimes en masse
No, Israelis haven’t been there for thousands of years. Many of the settlers who live there now don’t even have ancestry from Israel but are European converts. And, anyway, you don’t get dibs on a land after you left it for thousands of years. That is the land of Palestinians who have been there for thousands of years. This is not even a discussion. This is not about religion. This is about native people being robbed of their land and killed for the ambition of the imperial core.
“Committing war crimes on mass” Sure sure… someone defends themselves and tries to get their land back and you play the both sides cards. You are obviously being disingenuous here.
You can’t play the both sides card here when it is documented that the Israelis are the settler colonial regime mass genociding Palestinians since they arrived. Or do you say “both sides were bad” when the Europeans genocided native Americans? You would probably say “They were funded by tribal zealots” too. That is an imperialist mentality.
That too is a bit of revisionist history and if you extend the timeline back a bit you’ll see both parties have semi-legitimate claims to the area (hell, Israelis have been there for a thousand years before Palestine ever existed and before Islam came into existence around ~600ad) and both are religious nuts hellbent on destroying one another. I just feel bad for the innocent civilians stuck between two genocidal, warring factions of religious fanatics. Anyone who tries to claim one side here is more legitimate than the other or is more depraved than the other is just ignoring reality. Obviously Palestine is the “underdog” here but it doesn’t mean they aren’t committing war crimes en masse
No, Israelis haven’t been there for thousands of years. Many of the settlers who live there now don’t even have ancestry from Israel but are European converts. And, anyway, you don’t get dibs on a land after you left it for thousands of years. That is the land of Palestinians who have been there for thousands of years. This is not even a discussion. This is not about religion. This is about native people being robbed of their land and killed for the ambition of the imperial core.
“Committing war crimes on mass” Sure sure… someone defends themselves and tries to get their land back and you play the both sides cards. You are obviously being disingenuous here.
That’s great but can you just answer this ?
Is it ok in your sense to kill civilians because they invaded your country ?
A really simple question.
A colonial occupying settler force are not civilians.
So that’s a yes.