The “bare minimum for a non-disposable, consumer friendly, half environmentally responsible phone” starter pack.
Also the custom ROM ability should not be merely a bonus. IMO it needs to be legally mandatory even above standardised charging connectors. It costs effectively nothing to implement because the base OS and general architecture supports it by default, the manufacturer simply needs to not disable it, and it is by far the most important thing for keeping a device from becoming unusable and possibly even a cybersecurity risk with age. Also just in principle, I paid for the hardware I should be able to put my own software on it.
yup imagine not being able to run anything you want on your own device. it should be mandatory
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I miss being able to hold my phone comfortably in one hand.
This stupid propping it up with you pink sucks ass and isn’t natural.
I get that they’re basically super computers in your hand, but fuck man
That’s literally my first requirement for a phone, that it be small and actually fit inside my hand without any straining. It gets harder everytime I need a replacement - like, dudes, if I wanted aa small tablet, I’d buy a small tablet. I want a phone.
Yeah, same here. Except it didn’t get “harder” but simply impossible. There is not a single compact android phone on the market. You could get the iPhone se or the iPhone 13 Mini, but the compact iPhones are discontinued as well, so you’d switch ecosystems for a single generation of devices just to then be stranded again.
Zenfone 10 proves that you can fit a lot of phone in a small place and none if its problems are from its size.
Personally I don’t have tiny baby hands, so I dont need to worry about that… but it would definitely be nice if there were more options to choose from.
Yeah, but I’ve heard about your baby dick, so I’m fine with smaller hands…
EDIT: Sorry, it was intended as just a silly joke-response, no one’s actually sensitive here!
Yowch, someone’s a little sensitive… Trump, is that you?
I want my notification light back so badly!
I agree! And it flashed different colors for different notifications! Things were awesome!
Didn’t even realize the led was something that had been removed. Mine has it on the upper edge, which is fine, although I’d prefer it on the front face so it can be ‘muted’ by flipping the phone over
My android flashes around the edge of the screen when there’s a notification, whether I’m using it or not.
Wait, aren’t most phones OLED? Wouldn’t it be trivial to light up a few pixels in the corner of the screen when it’s off? Do phones not do this (I’m still running my S7 into the ground so I have a dedicated LED)?
It’s not trivial. An LED only needs power to light up, an OLED Pixel always needs the GPU to be powered on and it would be a significant power loss to implement a pixel sadly
The full Always On Display (which shows the clock + some notifications) uses less than 1% battery per hour on my ancient S7, are new phones not any better than that?
It doesn’t if the screen is connected directly to the frame buffer which can refresh independently. Whether that’s actually implemented this way in hardware, well who knows, but I suspect it is as that’s useful to display any static image. Then just power up the display driver for a microsecond to refresh the image if needed.
I mean there’s a ton of phones that have always on displays (AOD)
I have my always on display which gives me icons of the notifications in a predictable place on screen all the time.
My battery still lasts a full day so power concerns not an issue
yeah samsung has a feature for this in good look
The Xperia Z2 had a notification light bar, I miss that one especially.
I saw a comment on lemmy some time ago about a foss app that mostly brings it back, but I can’t find it anymore.
It’s not the one I saw, but a quick google search led to this: https://github.com/Chainfire/HoleyLight
I remember reading about AODnotify on here recently. I’m not sure if it’s FOSS, but it was a very cool app!
Dude literally described a perfect phone
Pretty much.
Is there a phone that still has all these features?
If a phone hit all of these, and added 6 years of guaranteed (timely) OEM OS updates, I would pay upwards of $2,000+.
OEMs hit me up - I’ve got a credit card ready to go right now.
FairPhone 5 is doing 8 years of software updates with 5 versions of Android updates and 3 more years of security updates.
Not small and no headphone jack, unfortunately.
No notification LED either, locked to /e/ in the US for keeping warranty, no buy.
Fairphone is damn close in spirit though, especially in the EU market.
What does locked to /e/ mean?
“Can I revert to Google stock Android?
Technically yes, but note that this will void your warranty and support with us”
I wouldn’t give them my money entirely because of this one line, personally.
Asus zenfone unfortunately doesn’t have a removable battery but good to go on everything else
I miss the notification LED
I don’t understand why that one has gone away. Like, the 3mm audio jack made waterproofing difficult and was big. But that doesn’t apply to the notification LED, does it?
I really miss that feature because now I have no indicator of a notification, short of the major battery drain of setting the screen to always be on. I remember even customizing the colour so that I could tell when I had important notifications. Now I often have to double tap my phone just to check if I have any notifications. So dumb.
Even the water resistance thing is a lie
IIRC Sprint required phones to have them at one point to be on their network. Might be misremembering though.
Wait wait new phones don’t have those anymore?
No they can only fold in half. We still need to do some research to implement notification LED technology.
RIP power user geared phones
Everything Android is now tooled for the hyper casual iPhone leaning demographic since they are the majority.
Oh look, phones from circa 2017!
I think “discontinued after one year” would be a fun punchline here, like the “perfect r/cars car” being a “brown, manual transmission, V8 wagon that’s used from the factory”
TIL: I am a cultist.
I had a different reaction to the notification led. I don’t like my electronics glowing or blinking in the dark. I still liked my old android tablet, but it had to sleep face down because I could not turn the LED off.
I can’t tell if you mean you slept face down or you slept with the tablet face down haha
On my phone the notification LED works as a charging/low-battery light. I can’t use my phone in the dark when the LED is on, because it’s so blindingly bright I can hardly see the screen.
I’ve covered the lights on several of my devices with black nail polish. It works pretty well. Some of them have angles that it won’t adhere to very well, but even then it’s a lot less obnoxious.
One coat to dim slightly, 3-4 to block light effectively.
FYI: I did not expect this to pick up so much traction. First few days on Lemmy seem to be a success!
If anyone can find me one of these without it breaking the bank please hmu
Nexus One
:(
Idk if it is an unpopular opinion or not but I want a camera which can also work as a phone. Like cameras are already the main focus of most flagships, might as well put in a proper camera with one lens and use it. Maybe going thicker will also help reduce the size of the phone in other dimensions.
TBH I would rather just use apps on my windows tablet, if the good apps were on it but then I would also rather Linux which has even fewer tablet apps
Agreed. I want someone to step up and build a photography-centric phone like the Nokia Lumia 1020 again. I know lots of flagships can take good pictures nowadays, but that’s something different from building an actual camera first phone.
Why not just get a “lensless” camera and pair it to your phone? Imo smartphones still have a way to go to be as fast as they need to be.
Still, if you’re dead set, it seems a number of phones with 1 inch sensors are coming out, although it doesn’t look like they’re compatible with attachable lenses.
Ummm I’d go with closed garden , Steve jobs worshipping iPhone adherents as the cultists.
