I’m just showing these comments I saw earlier, which were interesting. Since it is true, that we’ve been hearing that “Russia is cornered”, since the invasion started. I personally just want this shit to end.

These comments are relating to an article from this week.

I wonder if we will ever know what truly happens on the ground (i.e. when it comes to casualties and many other things)

  • ghosts [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Helping them with everything we can seem a way more peaceful plan

    Yup, supporting an endless war with a trickle of weapons that will ultimately result in a Ukrainian loss, hundreds of thousands dead, and a completely destroyed country that will be full of far-right mercenary groups with Western stockpiles is peace.

    Peace talks and negotiations, on the other hand - that’s war.

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      No, supporting the attacked people in their defence until they decide otherways.

      Also: stop dumbasses who think not giving weapons to attacked people that fight for their own freedom is a way to peace. The whole notion is absurd.

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        No, supporting the attacked people in their defence until they decide otherways.

        You just admitted that ukraine can decide to surrender meaning this isn’t a genocidal war so every supply of weapons keeping the Ukrainian government from doing so is another thousands of lives wasted pointlessly.

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        No, supporting the attacked people in their defence until they decide otherways.

        Then you should support the people of the Donbas who have been fighting for their lives since Ukraine started trying to ethnically cleanse them back in 2014.

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            I’ve been watching the Ukrainian conflict off and on since 2014, you are fucking delusional. Fuck man, even people like Mearsheimer have been talking about this stuff for half a decade now. Fine, live in your bubble, it doesn’t fucking matter what your or my opinion is, it’s not like any of these processes are democratic in the slightest. Enjoy the show, war-piggie.

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              Don’t you love when the shelling of civilians is ok since it is the “russian narrative” thank god this person told me those children getting torn apart by artillery the past 8 years don’t count as humans. Otherwise one might have to give a shit beyond their immediate news cycle

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            The classic “I know you are but what am I?!” response is all that the westoid propagandists like this person (or NATO bot?) can muster. “Nuh uh, I’m not fake news, you’re fake news! Oh and you’re boring. Nyeah.” Especially now that this farce of a counteroffensive has completely failed, it’s getting harder for them to hold up their embarrassing facade of lies. This is all clear to anyone who actually has even a little bit of understanding about what has been happening in real life, on the ground, exactly as the Ukrainian in the OP image is also telling us.

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        Why do those people need to conscript men, then?

        Does that sound fucking willing to you?

        Is it possible the ACTUAL people of Ukraine don’t want to die for this shit?

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        No, supporting the attacked people in their defence until they decide otherways.

        So you’d have been fine with arming the Iraqi people with modern western arms in their struggle against American invaders, neat!