• bdonvr@thelemmy.club
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    18
    ·
    2 years ago

    “It’s horrible for everybody. Yeah, I lost my son, it’s harder on our family, but I don’t want the rest of her life ruined too. It isn’t going to make me feel any better,” he said.

    As hard as it is to say something like that… we need more people like this.

    • SharkEatingBreakfast@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      2 years ago

      It’s a nice sentiment, but…

      This was premeditated. She needs to be held accountable and have consequences for what she willfully and knowingly did.

      She literally killed people. I’m not sure this can be a case of “forgive and let her off lightly.”

          • Alien Nathan Edward@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            2 years ago

            People change. They get better. The guy who shot Reagan got better, and they let him out. Now he writes love songs and posts them on YouTube, and sells his paintings on eBay.

          • EssentialCoffee@midwest.social
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            2 years ago

            On one hand, yes.

            On the other hand, 17+15 is 32. Think of all of the things you do to get your life started between 17 and 32 and where you’d be if you’d waited to do the stuff you did at 17 until you were 32. That’s a whole lot of life and life experience there.

            Such a stupid senseless waste all around.

      • bane_killgrind@kbin.social
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        2 years ago

        Being 17, I’d attribute some of the blame to her parents or whomever owns that vehicle.

        Is driving recklessly really the only symptom of being this emotionally deregulated? Did they not know how stupid or mentally ill she is?

        I bet the adults around her did not care or excused her behaviour.

        • SamboT@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          2 years ago

          I bet her dad was a party clown who was hoping this would happen.

          Like where the fuck do you get all of these assumptions from?

        • SharkEatingBreakfast@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          2 years ago

          That’s fine, but she still made a conscious decision to do it. If she was one year older, would that make any kind of difference?

          And let me be clear: mental illness can make some behaviors more understandable, but not murder– if the blame is put solely on mental illness, all that does is put more stigma on it. Not every shitty decision people make is because of “mental illness”.

  • Guntrigger@feddit.ch
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    2 years ago

    A haiku about this comment section:

    Healthy mind? Minor? We don’t rehabilitate In the USA

  • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    2 years ago

    On a side note: this is also why teenagers should not be driving cars. She was 17 and able to driver her friends around? WTH?

    Until she’s 18 she should not have a driver’s license

    Once 18 she should, until 21, only be able to drive around with an adult over 21 next to her to monitor her driving

    Cars are 2 tonnes of death on wheels, why do we allow irresponsible teenagers to play around with that?

    Well then again, this is the US were talking about, teenagers can get near military grade weapons as well and nothing ever goes wrong with that, so what am I complaining about rite?

    • Shush@reddthat.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      2 years ago

      It doesn’t matter what age is it. It’s not like people suddenly stop being reckless and careless at 21. I’ve heard enough horror stories of people who are way ahead of legal age doing dangerous stuff.

    • lightnsfw@reddthat.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      2 years ago

      The vast majority of teenagers are fine and require transportation to get to work/school. I wouldn’t argue against restrictions on passengers but completely stripping them of driving would fuck up so many things. How does a 18-21 year old get back and forth to college without a car for example?

  • TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    2 years ago

    I dont know why I subbed to this shit, but it certainly wasn’t to learn about random fucking misery in Ohio

    yes this is very sad and awful. I don’t give a shit. don’t want to see this kind of stuff.

  • pwnstar@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    2 years ago

    It took police 45 minutes to get to the scene of the crash… fucking what?

    This wasn’t exactly in the middle of nowhere

  • Dimok@reddthat.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    2 years ago

    Hey so kind of off topic, but did anyone else read this and think this might be a problem? - “Police arrived to the scene around 45 minutes later.”

    • hypelightfly@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      2 years ago

      By itself? No.

      It does not say “Police arrived 45 minutes after it was reported”. From that statement alone we have no idea how long between the crash and someone seeing it and reporting.

  • finthechat@kbin.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    2 years ago

    Totally deserved. I have been the passenger in a similar situation to this - shit was horrifying. I got 100000000% lucky that I wasn’t injured in the crash.

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    2 years ago

    How is she eligible for release if she’s found guilty of two murders? Or 15 years rather than something like 40? Murder is one of the few things I think should carry a punitive sentence rather than rehab.

    • Iteria@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      2 years ago

      I imagine it’s her age. She wasn’t even legally an adult, not that that excuses it. Losing all her 20s and most of her 30s basically means if she does get out at exactly 15 years she’s probably much screwed her whole life even setting aside the felony on her record. Her life will look nothing like she imagined.

      • ANGRY_MAPLE@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        2 years ago

        That’s even ignoring what being in prison for that long will do to you mentally. From what I’ve heard, it’s almost a whole other world in there.

        I can’t imagine getting out after spending 15 years of my life in prison, and being able to keep the same quirks and mannerisms. Everything is just different. It’s tough for fully grown adults to transition through, let alone someone who spent the last half of their teens.

        That being said, neither of those two dead people will ever get to see a sunrise again. They’ll never get to feel the wind on their face, or tell their parents that they love them. For what?

        Intentionally murdering innocent people is despicable and soulless. I hope that they give her a lot of therapy and mental help in there. What a tragic end for such young lives.