A shroom community was removed from lemmy.world as it was considered “illegal” content by the admins. The logic behind this is boggling, to say the least.
Marijuana is considered an illegal substance in some states in the US and is still federally illegal. /c/trees should be banned, correct?
Clown pictures of Putin are absolutely considered illegal in Russia, so that should require and immediate ban.
Freedom of speech can also be considered illegal in some places.
Incest is considered illegal so that should automatically trigger a ban on all incest porn, real or not. Hell, porn is universally taboo, so that shouldn’t have any place on this instance, I guess.
You see where I am going with this? Rule 1 is a catch-all and needs clarification. Simply saying something is illegal is not quite enough. Owning and sharing pictures of shrooms is not illegal. Trading spores or mycelium is generally not illegal either.
This is not about me being salty (which I am) about the community being removed and forced to relocate. It’s the odd bias that was applied to justify its removal.
Please note that I said fix Rule 1, not remove it. There are some really bad things on the internet that shouldn’t use lemmy as a safe haven.
Oof, yeah I fully agree.
We should be able to discus drugs, because whether you like it or not, drugs are part of the world, and part of life of many humans.
Most of us use drugs on a daily or weekly basis. Nicotine, caffeine, alcohol, weed, etc. We should be able to talk about these things.
I agree, it needs to be more clear about what would be removed.
Okay I didn’t expect stricter rules here than on Reddit honestly.
To be clear, this is an instance choice. You can still find drug friendly instances and subscribe to the communities.
Me neither, thought 😔🤔 there was gonna be sum kind o freedom or sum shit
Y’all could set up on psychedelia.ink instead: “A Lemmy instance for all things psychedelia or psychedelia-adjacent.”
There may be other appropriate specialized instances as well, that was just the first one that I noticed.
Gonna be that guy. But just because something is legal in one place doesn’t mean it is legal where the instance/owner is located. And the owner is protecting their own skin, I would do the same. Can also be realted to the host.
So as others have mentioned, it’s better to find an instance welcoming this kind of content.
OP’s point stands. If that’s the case, be specific about it. Have a rule saying no drugs. Otherwise rule 1 is just a vague excuse to ban anything and everything
This is a fair take. If world can’t legally host this stuff say so.
Now if it won’t do so, because the owner of world is some Puritan, then that also needs to be disclosed so I can immediately stop my donations to the sever.
That is why I am asking for clarification around rule 1. I am sure many people would be glad to comply and start communities on other instances because of local laws and such.
It’s an extremely vague rule, is what my point is.
I agree that it would make sense to be more clear. But how clear? List of all things that are illegal? Just those things thay differ from “normal” laws? But then what are we to set as “normal”?
Think the best would be to state where the instance is located and what national and international laws governing it. For example “No illegal content on instace based on German and EU laws”.
Yes. I don’t see why this community cannot move to an instance hosted in a jurisdiction where this is legal.
Just want to also point out that lemmy.world is already a huge instance and these communities would be better if they were spread out to more instances
Yes. I don’t see why this community cannot move to an instance hosted in a jurisdiction where this is legal.
Agree 100 percent, just because something is illegal it does not make it illegal to talk about it.
Nah yeah bro, agreed.
Like banning pics n photos of MUSHROOMS whether psychedelic or not is FUCKING BAZAAR to me … I don’t get it… Are amanita mascaria banned, how about blue meanies , or is it just cubes ? Banning nature / biology / science(mycology) is idiotic
Is there magazines about alcohol, vaping and or tobacco ?
Cause I assure You (Lemmy) shrooms been consumed by humans for far longer then any substances that You allow discussions over, and it’s one of those organic substances that’s more good than bad (obviously it’s not for everyone) but it’s a great 😃👍 substance… "
“several antibiotics have already been isolated from various mushrooms and microfungi (including penicillin and griseofulvin, which are isolated from microfungi)”
Are you gonna ban the discussion over antibiotics next ?
/SMH
The question of legality on Lemmy is something that has to evolve and be discussed because of federation. Stuff on one instance gets replicated on others in other parts of the world. What factors should be the determining ones? The place where the instance is hosted? All the places where the content is replicated? Who is liable? The owner of the originating instance or all the instances that replicate illegal content? If this wasn’t free and open, but rather a huge corporation, the fediverse would have a legal team to decide already.
I aggree. Though, communities like this should be marked NSFW.
Agreed about the need for clarity. There’s probably nothing that isn’t illegal somewhere. So what’s the standard here?
The illegal/legal content should be based on instance location.
Which jurisdiction is lemmy.world in?
The piracy instance needs to be reinstated too. The admins of this community make Reddit look good.
