Four Gaza protesters in Germany are set for deportations despite objections from an immigration official that none were convicted of crimes.

Berlin’s immigration authorities are moving to deport four young foreign residents on allegations related to participation in protests against Israel’s war on Gaza, an unprecedented move that raises serious concerns over civil liberties in Germany.

The deportation orders, issued under German migration law, were made amid political pressure and over internal objections from the head of the state of Berlin’s immigration agency.

The internal strife arose because three of those targeted for deportation are citizens of European Union member states who normally enjoy freedom of movement between E.U. countries. None of the four has been convicted of any crimes.

“What we’re seeing here is straight out of the far right’s playbook,” said Alexander Gorski, a lawyer representing two of the protesters. “You can see it in the U.S. and Germany, too: Political dissent is silenced by targeting the migration status of protesters.”

  • Markie84@feddit.orgEnglish
    1723·
    3 days ago

    Yes, i have:

    Under German migration law, authorities don’t need a criminal conviction to issue a deportation order

    The only event that tied the four cases together was the allegation that the protesters participated in the university occupation, which involved property damage, and alleged obstruction of an arrest

    Some, but not all, of the allegations would correspond to criminal charges in Germany; almost none of them have been brought before a criminal court.

    Two, for example, are accused of calling a police officer “fascist” — insulting an officer, which is a crime. Three are accused of demonstrating with groups chanting slogans like “From the river to the sea, Palestine Will be Free” — which was outlawed last year in Germany — and “free Palestine.” Authorities also claim all four shouted antisemitic or anti-Israel slogans, though none are specified.

    Two are accused of grabbing an officers’ or another protesters’ arm in an attempt to stop arrests at the train station sit-in.

    None of this sounds to me like 4 people who simply took part peacefully in a protest.

    • IndustryStandard@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      328·
      3 days ago

      The only event that tied the four cases together was the allegation that the protesters participated in the university occupation, which involved property damage, and alleged obstruction of an arrest

      I highlighted it already. Not sure why you are trying to quote other paragraphs out of context. Here it is again

      None of the protesters are accused of any particular acts of vandalism or the de-arrest at the university

      Under German migration law, authorities don’t need a criminal conviction to issue a deportation order

      Okay clearly you are not even interested whether the students were guilty. The essense of your argument condenses to

      “Yes but unlike in America, in Germany this is legal!”

      And I fail to see how it makes it any better that Germany is deporting people demonstrating against genocide, simply because you believe it is legal (which it probably is not according to international human rights laws, which Germany is supposed to follow).

      • Markie84@feddit.orgEnglish
        1118·
        2 days ago

        I have inserted the sentence again because you apparently only read the last part and had overlooked the part about the building occupation and damage to property.

        Okay clearly you are not even interested whether the students were guilty.

        You may be surprised, but** I** don’t make the laws.

        And I fail to see how it makes it any better that Germany is deporting people demonstrating against genocide

        Then you should read the article again. Because almost 50% of the article consists of explaining what these 4 people are accused of and are - apparently - NOT simply protesting.

        • IndustryStandard@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
          206·
          2 days ago

          None of the protesters are accused of any particular acts of vandalism or the de-arrest at the university

            • IndustryStandard@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
              167·
              2 days ago

              Other people present at the same protest are accused of doing these things. Not these people. Scroll up to the article summary I posted

              None of the four has been convicted of any crimes.

              • Markie84@feddit.orgEnglish
                27·
                2 days ago

                Under German migration law, authorities don’t need a criminal conviction to issue a deportation order

                • IndustryStandard@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
                  52·
                  2 days ago

                  Okay clearly you are not even interested whether the students were guilty. The essense of your argument condenses to

                  “Yes but unlike in America, in Germany this is legal!”

    • Saleh@feddit.orgEnglish
      172·
      2 days ago

      The slogan “From the river to the Sea” was “outlawed” by a decree from the interior ministry designating it as a symbol of Hamas. Think of this act like Trump banning DEI. There is no legal consensus on it and various courts have upheld the slogan to be a legitimate expression und the constitutionally protected freedom of speech in Germany.

      This is executive order authoritarian style action and entirely different from democratic proceedings, where the parliament passes a law in accordance with the constitution, which then is interpreted by courts and finally enforced by the executive.

      Here the legislative and judiciary are cut out.