• PooCrafter93@lemmy.sdf.org
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    Dude isn’t this “mildly infuriating”. The daily mail is designed to piss people off, feels more than “mildly” infuriating lol

  • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Amazing how we’ve gone from “clap for the NHS they’re amazing” to “you want fair compensation? psst!”

    Also if the strike has only been going on for a little while then how does the Daily Mail account for the fact that NHS quality has gone down every year of the decade long Tory rule.

    Maybe it’s not the doctors that’s the problem… maybe it’s the politicians (including Labour since Wes Streeting is chomping at the bit to carve up the NHS and continue the Tory legacy)

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      2 years ago

      Ah yes, another lie from the brexiteer brigade which is a gift for future generations to live with.

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        Lithuania GDP Per Capita: $28,094

        UK GDP Per Capita: $46,371

        Brexit (and moreso post-GFC austerity) have been actions of brain-dead economic self-harm, but I don’t know where you got your numbers from here. Even PPP adjusted the UK is ahead.

      • Aux@lemmy.world
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        You have no fucking clue what you’re talking about. If you think that life is bad in the UK, you’d die from starvation in Lithuania.

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          Lithuania is actually doing pretty fine for itself. Haven’t heard of any people starving to death there. Might drop some sources for that?

      • DacoTaco@lemmy.world
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        I disagree.
        Left is more than wealth. Left is often reffered to socialism or liberalism. Either cases have at its core nothing to do with wealthy at all. Its not because your local politics have the left as wealthy fuckwads that this is everywhere.

        That said, dont get me wrong, this is some terrible shit to say and the wealthy should piss off.

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          A) Liberalism is not left wing

          B) Socialism, at its core, is about seizing control of the means of production, as it is they which create wealth.

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              The principle of “let consenting adults do whatever they want” is absolutelly compatible with some people having almost all of the money and others starving, but the principle of “the greatest good for the greatest number” is not.

              Liberalism (the first) has nothing to do with Left (the second).

              Now if Liberalism was actually about maximizing Freedom in all its senses, then it would end up mainly concerning itself with how Human Basic Needs and Money and Ownership Law (mainly of Land) are used to limit the Freedom of most people, but “strangelly” I have never once heard or read a “liberal” mention how the very structures that keep a few in wealth limit the freedom of everybody else.

              Trully thinking liberals could end up as lefties but they always stop at the boundary of reducing wealth discrimination, liberalizing access to land anf in general doing things that would free people who are born landless (i.e. most people) from being forced to work for others under other people’s conditions for a roof over their heads and food on their tables.

              De facto present day liberals as are hard right (though socially liberal, they’re extremelly conservative in everything else).

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          You can disagree with me all you want. You’re extremely misinformed, though. An entire life of propaganda made you believe some weird shit, but socialism is unequivocally about wealth distribution and liberalism is undoubtedly right-wing.

          I didn’t understand your comment about local politics. Mostly because you can’t possibly know where i’m from, and calling the left ‘wealthy fuckwads’ is just bizarre.

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        So you’re trying to gaslight people into thinking that wealthy people only represent the left or the right? Rofl.

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          No. I’ve read enough theory to know that the left understands the world as a struggle between two classes: capitalists and workers.

          The right believes in meritocracy, the invisible hand of the market, and risking capital as the most valuable asset.

          Of course there are poor people leaning right. There is not a single leftist billionaire, though.

          …oh, and in case you’re from the United States (you act as if you were): Both of your political parties are right-wing. Your ‘radical leftist politicians’ are centrists at best. Right-wingers don’t become leftists because they’re ok with giving some human rights to the population.

      • Aux@lemmy.world
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        No. The true left is all about freedoms and rights - liberal democracy. What you call left is the same authorisation shit as right.

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    Obligatory

    Fuck the Daily Mail.

    And The Sun along with them.

    Absolute fucking rags that I wouldn’t wipe my ass with.

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    Why is written ‘harming’ in single quotes? Is this some opinion that someone has had that they are publishing as fact?

    The government is just holding out in the hope that public opinion on the strikes turns on their favour or that the nurses and doctors run out of savings to keep striking.

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      It’ll be paraphrased from something a Tory said and I suspect the quotes cover the “paper” from libel since they can then claim it was opinion rather than fact

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      I read a while back that it’s to insulate the paper from any potential defamation lawsuits, the quotes are there to ensure the difference between “we believe the strikes are harming patients also this person says they must stop” and “this person believes the strikes are harming patients and also says they must stop”

      It’s actually very common practice in the UK, most headlines make use of quotations to endorse a position by means of quoting an opinion and providing context to that opinion.

      In this specific case it is of course bullshit, the language of the headline is deliberately worded to incite anger against the healthcare professionals and the quotes are added to preserve the emotive qualities of the headline when read by the layperson while insulating the paper from legal risk.

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    Capitalism is pay to play bitch. Funny how it’s harmful when it affects their control but underfunding healthcare isn’t.

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    What I am shocked at is people still buy tabloid news papers in the UK especially the junk papers like the daily mail. The UK media is brought and sold just like the US media. All trash, don’t support them.

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    Striking doctors…are striking doctors.

    Yes, it will harm patients, but when wouldn’t it? How exactly do they think strikes work, working anyway and loudly complaining?

    And as can brought up, the people not meeting the demands should be falling under the same scrutiny. It could be ended by either side.

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      Thatcher outlawed this (surprise, surprise) but thr way Japanese train drivers strike is they run the trains but refuse to collect fairs. That seems like a much better system to me.

      I don’t know how doctors could do something similar though.

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    Daily Fail or Daily Heil, there’s no denying that this is one useless rag of a tabloid.

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    That’s the Daily Mail for you.

    It’s a tabloid for the working class that actively promotes shitting on the working class. Unfortunately, they’re as popular now as they ever have been.

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    And in a few years they’ll headline “Lazy students refuse to study medicine, hospitals closing due to doctor shortage!”

    Then they’ll tell you how the rich go to the EU for treatment and blame it all in Brussels

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    It’s the Daily Mail… What were you expecting. Even toilet paper has more worth

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      Toilet paper is actually priceless. It’s very important. I think you meant “used” toilet paper.